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Doctor WTF?

Started by Ian Warner, April 24, 2011, 08:27:26 AM

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Seanchai

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May 15, 2011, 11:48:47 PM
Quote from: danbuter;458233I'm wondering if she actually is the Doctor's granddaughter, or just "adopted". (Please don't spoil it).

There's nothing to spoil as far as I'm aware as they never actually say on the show. I think some books delve into the issue, but...

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brettmb

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May 15, 2011, 11:56:18 PM
Quote from: Seanchai;458236most companions in past eras are pretty useless. *cough* Jo Grant *cough*i
That's not really true about Jo. She started out that way, but she got pretty competent. She was able to defeat the Master's mind control, for example. While Turlough had his own agenda, he was competent, as was Nyssa. Liz Shaw was able to hold her own with the Doctor when it came to Earthly sciences.

Aos

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May 16, 2011, 12:00:56 AM
And I believe Zoe was on record as being as smart if not smarter than the Doctor. She also looked resonably good in a sparkly jumpsuit.
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May 16, 2011, 12:13:48 AM
Quote from: Aos;458239And I believe Zoe was on record as being as smart if not smarter than the Doctor. She also looked resonably good in a sparkly jumpsuit.
Yes, but her problem was being too naive.

Aos

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May 16, 2011, 12:19:46 AM
naive =/= useless.
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brettmb

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May 16, 2011, 12:21:28 AM
Quote from: Aos;458241naive =/= useless.
No, but it equals getting into trouble.

Aos

#66
May 16, 2011, 12:30:50 AM
Not to nit pick, but useless or not, I thought that's generally what companions were for. Well, that and providing the Doctor someone to explain everything to.
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May 16, 2011, 04:47:24 AM
Quote from: Aos;458230As for Susan, I'm not so much referring to her skill set as her propensity to collapse into a blubbering screaming mess.  Jo at least wasn't written as coward; Susan often was.  Jesus, i know too much about this shit, especially for an American.

To be fair to Susan she had a very sheltered upbringing on Galifray. She had enough trouble trying to take in the relatively safe and primitive Earth 1963 in an Unearthly Child. When things start trying to kill her she naturally freaks out.

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danbuter

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May 16, 2011, 05:50:59 AM Last Edit: May 16, 2011, 05:53:12 AM by danbuter
Quote from: Aos;458234It seems to me that Ian is the Hero of those early adventures, not the Doctor.

Ian is definitely the man of action. At least for the first story (the cavemen), the Doctor spends most of his time just being pissed off. Not to mention trying to murder the injured caveman.
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May 16, 2011, 05:52:10 AM
Quote from: Seanchai;458237There's nothing to spoil as far as I'm aware as they never actually say on the show. I think some books delve into the issue, but...

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May 16, 2011, 10:29:50 AM
Quote from: Aos;458243Not to nit pick, but useless or not, I thought that's generally what companions were for. Well, that and providing the Doctor someone to explain everything to.

Yes. That's part of what I mean by useless. People have listed ways in which various companions were smart or actually did something, but in general, they're role has been a kind of conversation bot - someone for the Doctor to explain things to. Hence these notable exceptions.

As I said, I've been watching classic Who. I saw an interview on one of the disks and Elizabeth Sladen was talking about how the actors know that's the role.

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May 16, 2011, 10:33:35 AM
Quote from: Seanchai;458283Yes. That's part of what I mean by useless. People have listed ways in which various companions were smart or actually did something, but in general, they're role has been a kind of conversation bot - someone for the Doctor to explain things to. Hence these notable exceptions.

As I said, I've been watching classic Who. I saw an interview on one of the disks and Elizabeth Sladen was talking about how the actors know that's the role.

Seanchai

I watched most of the older episodes on PBS late night on Saturdays during the early 1990's. We used to place bets about who would get captured first.

@Ian, as a character, I concede that Susan has plenty of reasons for being a whimpering pile- it's just annoying to watch and subtracts from my enjoyment of the show.
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Ian Warner

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May 16, 2011, 11:26:23 AM
Quote from: danbuter;458259Wouldn't it be a laugh if Doctor Who really was named Doctor Foreman?

Actually Susan's name is one she made up according to An Unearthly Child. What would her Time Lord Name be I wonder?

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Seanchai

#73
May 16, 2011, 02:18:41 PM
Quote from: Aos;458284We used to place bets about who would get captured first.

Captured or do something impetuous, thus causing plot complications. Which isn't to say that they're never useful - I remember Zoe coming up with some ideas in an episode I saw a few months ago.

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May 16, 2011, 04:15:57 PM
Yeah but even Victoria the classic screaming girl came in useful once.

Her scream shattered the invaders as they were made out of crystal!
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