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Social fiction smackdown

Started by Bedrockbrendan, October 19, 2017, 01:23:20 PM

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Bedrockbrendan

#30
October 26, 2017, 12:18:41 AM
Quote from: Schwartzwald;1003617Fuck you. I'm not going to let that pompous piece of shit pull his PA whining at my posts but I can't tear on his.

While we do have a free speech policy here and you are free to use it, do understand site disruption and thread stalking are not something we allow. Not saying you are doing either of these yet. But I am letting you know that repeatedly ruining discussing with intentional derailment and/or going from thread to thread to single out a particular poster for hostile treatment, can be something that leads to a ban. If you want to swear at me, be my guest, but do not mistake my gentle reaction to your provocations for a complete lack of rules on the forum. If you need a refresher on any of the finer points here I am happy to direct you to relevant stickies.

Koltar

#31
October 26, 2017, 01:38:30 AM
What about the "Divergent" stories and movies - about a society that pressures people into faction groups?

I know its yet another 'young adult novel 'dystopia' thing - but the first book and movie was pretty strong - then the author seemed to get lost in the woods a bit.

- Ed C
The return of \'You can\'t take the Sky From me!\'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUn-eN8mkDw&feature=rec-fresh+div

This is what a really cool FANTASY RPG should be like :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-WnjVUBDbs

Still here, still alive, at least Seven years now...

bconsidine

#32
October 26, 2017, 08:37:03 AM
Here's an old-school option: Karel Capek's War with the Newts.

Blaise

HMWHC

#33
October 26, 2017, 03:07:49 PM
Though I haven't read them since they first came out the "Marshal Law" comic books were great social commentary/social satire.

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"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

Headless

#34
October 26, 2017, 04:39:31 PM
Quote from: Koltar;1003642What about the "Divergent" stories and movies - about a society that pressures people into faction groups?

I know its yet another 'young adult novel 'dystopia' thing - but the first book and movie was pretty strong - then the author seemed to get lost in the woods a bit.

- Ed C

The Divergent movies are about what would happen if we based our entire society on a high school cafitiera.

Schwartzwald

#35
October 26, 2017, 10:25:47 PM
Quote from: Gwarh;1003782Though I haven't read them since they first came out the "Marshal Law" comic books were great social commentary/social satire.

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Wasn't this mostly a parody of judge dredd?

Voros

#36
October 27, 2017, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: bconsidine;1003685Here's an old-school option: Karel Capek's War with the Newts.

Blaise

A good book. His play R.U.R is a good read too.

HMWHC

#37
October 27, 2017, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: Schwartzwald;1003917Wasn't this mostly a parody of judge dredd?

Yeah that's a big part of it, but still was a good story in it's own right.
"YOU KNOW WHO ELSE CLOSED THREADS THAT "BORED" HIM?!? HITLER!!!"
~ -E.

Skarg

#38
November 06, 2017, 12:17:41 PM
Quote from: BedrockBrendan;1002244Again, not too worried about the parameters. So long as you think it genuinely is social fiction, feel free to discuss it. If someone brings up something you think isn't social fiction, probably best to just ignore it and post about something you consider more relevant.
What if we have a literature degree and yet have never heard the term "social fiction" before this thread and have no idea what you mean, at all?

Bedrockbrendan

#39
November 06, 2017, 01:00:34 PM
Quote from: Skarg;1006111What if we have a literature degree and yet have never heard the term "social fiction" before this thread and have no idea what you mean, at all?

The label isn't important Skarg, it is a thread dedicated to science fiction and fiction that deals speculatively with the development of society in stories like 1984, Utopia, Brave New World, A Clockwork Orange, etc (hopefully in a non-pretentious way).

Skarg

#40
November 07, 2017, 01:39:39 AM
Oh I see, thanks.

Voros

#41
November 07, 2017, 02:08:49 AM
Quote from: Skarg;1006111What if we have a literature degree and yet have never heard the term "social fiction" before this thread and have no idea what you mean, at all?

Let's not derail into semantic but even Wikipedia, usually a literary wasteland, has a defintion of the social novel.

It is a usually a English style/genre so perhaps that's why you're not familiar with it.

Skarg

#42
November 08, 2017, 12:10:32 PM
I had/have no desire to discuss details of definitions. I just had no idea what was meant. The first idea I had was that it might be akin to "social media" so I was thinking of books written by multiple writers on forums, or by having the public make suggestions, or roleplay characters, or books released as serials on social media, or forum fan fiction, or something.

My impression is that fiction with social themes tends to suffer overall when the social themes get so much focus (either by the author or by the reader or analyst) that other aspects are neglected and even the social themes then ring hollow and/or seem forced or artificial.

Simlasa

#43
November 11, 2017, 10:57:07 AM
When I hear 'social fiction' I usually think of J. G. Ballard... his stories are often about odd subcultures developing amid modern spaces and relationships, or because of environmental changes. Comical and frightening without being too preachy.
'High Rise' is probably my favorite of his.
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