https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/disney-plus-star-wars-marvel-pixar-series-1234850947/
Wow.
10 new Star Wars properties, 10 new Marvel properties, and 15 new Disney/Pixar properties.
Star Wars:
- The Acolyte - Live Action Disney+ series
- Ahsoka - Live Action Disney+ series staring Rosario Dawson
- Andor - Live Action Disney+ series starring Diego Luna
- The Bad Batch - Animated Clone Wars spinoff set in the early days of the Empire
- A Droid Story - Animated R2D2 and C3PO series
- Lando - Live Action Lando Calrissian Disney+ series, Donald Glover not yet confirmed to return
- Obi-Wan Kenobi - Live Action Disney+ series starring Ewan McGregor, Hayden Christensen to appear as Darth Vader
- The Rangers of the New Republic - Live Action Disney+ series
- Rogue Squadron - Live Action Theatrical Movie directed by Patty Jenkins
- Star Wars: Visions - Disney+ ten episode Japanese anime anthology series
Ahsoka, Rangers of the New Republic, and The Mandalorian are supposed to intersect in a "climactic story event".
There is more, obviously, but I can only process so much.
They've also announced another Indiana Jones theatrical movie starring Harrison Ford.
Chadwick Boseman's role as T'Challa will not be recast for the upcoming Black Panther 2.
A new Fantastic Four movie is on the way from Marvel. Hopefully the fourth time's the charm.
Captain Marvel 2 has been officially announced for summer 2022.
Well, I thought the Boba Fett series was going to be terrible, but it turned into something good.
Still, I can't shake the feeling that that's because of Jon Favreau specifically, and the coming lineup of new Star Wars stuff is going to range from mediocre to terrible.
I'm quite dissapointed with not re-casting of T'Challa.
Sure they could kill him and replace him with his sister later as Tech-Panther, but this will just be sort of disjointed.
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on December 11, 2020, 06:25:26 AM
I'm quite dissapointed with not re-casting of T'Challa.
Sure they could kill him and replace him with his sister later as Tech-Panther, but this will just be sort of disjointed.
I think it's a good idea. One of the better things about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, in contrast to the comic book universe, is they're letting people age and retire. There's a lot they can still do with Black Panther and Wakanda without T'Challa, and Chadwick Bosman might have been hard to replace anyway.
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on December 11, 2020, 06:25:26 AM
I'm quite dissapointed with not re-casting of T'Challa.
Sure they could kill him and replace him with his sister later as Tech-Panther, but this will just be sort of disjointed.
I think they should have recast T'Challa. It would not have been disrespectful, and there are a number of roles within the MCU that have already been recast, with generally positive results.
IMHO it would have granted Chadwick Boseman a small portion of immortality as the role he originated lived on.
Also, there will be a Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special that will appear on Disney+ in 2022, to be filmed at the same time as GOTG3, written and directed by James Gunn.
There will also be a series of Baby Groot shorts to appear on Disney +, entitled I am Groot.
Quote"I think it's a good idea. One of the better things about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, in contrast to the comic book universe, is they're letting people age and retire. There's a lot they can still do with Black Panther and Wakanda without T'Challa, and Chadwick Bosman might have been hard to replace anyway."
It's one thing when characters dies in a film, another when the actor die offscreen.
Bit pity they were not aware of this later, they could give him heroic death in Endgame maybe.
QuoteI think they should have recast T'Challa. It would not have been disrespectful, and there are a number of roles within the MCU that have already been recast, with generally positive results.
I was all for Chiwetel Ejiofor - despite him having his role already.
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on December 11, 2020, 08:29:36 AM
Quote"I think it's a good idea. One of the better things about the Marvel Cinematic Universe, in contrast to the comic book universe, is they're letting people age and retire. There's a lot they can still do with Black Panther and Wakanda without T'Challa, and Chadwick Bosman might have been hard to replace anyway."
It's one thing when characters dies in a film, another when the actor die offscreen.
Bit pity they were not aware of this later, they could give him heroic death in Endgame maybe.
How a character dies isn't as important as how other people react to his death. This creates some real narrative opportunities, for instance starting a film with someone saying "T'Challa is dead!", and then exploring not just how and why, but the consequences.
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 08:39:55 AM
How a character dies isn't as important as how other people react to his death. This creates some real narrative opportunities, for instance starting a film with someone saying "T'Challa is dead!", and then exploring not just how and why, but the consequences.
Maybe, but it also eliminates an iconic and very well received character whose stories they had only begun to tell. It will also mean that Black Panther is dead in the movies, but alive and well in the comics, which creates issues when adopting comic storylines into future movies.
Quote from: Lurkndog on December 11, 2020, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 08:39:55 AM
How a character dies isn't as important as how other people react to his death. This creates some real narrative opportunities, for instance starting a film with someone saying "T'Challa is dead!", and then exploring not just how and why, but the consequences.
Maybe, but it also eliminates an iconic and very well received character whose stories they had only begun to tell. It will also mean that Black Panther is dead in the movies, but alive and well in the comics, which creates issues when adopting comic storylines into future movies.
They also got rid of Cap and Iron Man, and Thor isn't coming back. They can tell plenty of Black Panther stories without T'Challa being alive.
QuoteIt will also mean that Black Panther is dead in the movies, but alive and well in the comics, which creates issues when adopting comic storylines into future movies.
Less adapting comic storylines the better.
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
They also got rid of Cap and Iron Man, and Thor isn't coming back.
I believe that they have said that Thor will likely be in the next Avengers movie.
Quote from: HappyDaze on December 11, 2020, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
They also got rid of Cap and Iron Man, and Thor isn't coming back.
I believe that they have said that Thor will likely be in the next Avengers movie.
I could easily be out of date. I have no compulsion to learn everything about a movie before I see it.
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 09:03:00 AM
They also got rid of Cap and Iron Man, and Thor isn't coming back. They can tell plenty of Black Panther stories without T'Challa being alive.
Uh, how many movies did Cap and Iron Man headline or play major roles in, compared to BP?
Let's see... (pulls off shoes so he can count on his toes too) ... three Iron Man films, three Captain America films, four Avengers films, one Spidey film.
BP appeared in four films: CA: Civil War, Black Panther, Avengers: IW, and Avengers: Endgame.
Quote from: Lurkndog on December 11, 2020, 08:55:44 AM
Quote from: Pat on December 11, 2020, 08:39:55 AM
How a character dies isn't as important as how other people react to his death. This creates some real narrative opportunities, for instance starting a film with someone saying "T'Challa is dead!", and then exploring not just how and why, but the consequences.
Maybe, but it also eliminates an iconic and very well received character whose stories they had only begun to tell. It will also mean that Black Panther is dead in the movies, but alive and well in the comics, which creates issues when adopting comic storylines into future movies.
This last point is the weakest. There are a huge number of differences between the comics and movies -- keeping continuity between them has never been a major point, nor should it be. I think the comics have been useful to mine for the best storylines -- I thought the Killmonger storyline was a great example of this. But Black Panther in the comics hasn't been solely about the character of T'Challa. It is a title that has passed from person to person. There are a lot of cases of characters other than T'Challa who have been Black Panther in the comics - including Shuri as well as Kasper Cole and even Killmonger.
The only two significant recastings in the MCU have been Hulk and War Machine. The Hulk was largely by ignoring the original movie which effectively isn't a part of the continuity, and War Machine was a minor side character prior to replacement.
I think it will work better if the actor playing the new Black Panther can fully own their role -- bringing their interpretation to the role, rather than being tied to how Chadwick Boseman interpreted T'Challa.
Also, I like the idea of Shuri as Black Panther because thus far in the MCU, T'Challa hasn't been portrayed to be a scientist -- and we've been lacking superhero scientists in the MCU. In the comics, Black Panther is a brilliant scientist and engineer who is a peer to Reed Richards and Tony Stark. In the MCU, Reed Richards has been missing; and Ant-Man is Scott Lang rather than Hank Pym (Pym hasn't interacted yet with the rest of the Avengers). There is Bruce Banner as a scientist and Tony Stark as an engineer, but they could use some company.
Disney+ currently has 86.8 million subscribers, and their CEO is projecting they'll reach 230 to 260 million by 2024. What's really remarkable is their 2024 target was 60 to 90 million, last November. A year in, and they're at the high end of their 5 year goal. And if Disney's other 2 streaming services are included (Hulu and ESPN+), the 2024 projection is 300 to 350 million.
Disney's stocks rose 14% on Friday, at the news.
By contrast, Netflix had 158 million subscribers a year ago, may be approaching 200 million now, and is expected to be around 300 million by 2024.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-has-86-8-million-subscribers-ceo-bob-chapek-says-11607637323
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-great-streaming-battle-is-here-no-one-is-safe-11573272000
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disney-may-finally-make-netflix-sweat-11607688180
https://www.wsj.com/articles/disneys-sizzle-reel-sends-stock-to-new-highs-11607718465
Quote from: Wicked Woodpecker of West on December 11, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
QuoteIt will also mean that Black Panther is dead in the movies, but alive and well in the comics, which creates issues when adopting comic storylines into future movies.
Less adapting comic storylines the better.
They have not been doing much of that anyhow. So far all these movies just play lip service to this or that storyline, if even that. Especially as the movies progressed they have kept the titles of some storyline and a few characters. And little else.
While I don't have much hope for any of those titles (except Guardians), I'm glad that the Mouse feels confident to be expanding their franchises.
Have they announced the Guy Williams Zorro series will be going up on Disney+ yet?
Don't care about anything else. :)
Meanwhile I look at this news as 35 new potential trashfires I can warm my cold black heart beside.
Disney's problem isn't that they haven't found the right properties yet. They've still got that backwards thinking going on for them. Disney's problem would appear to be that they have no idea what their actual business is and no idea how to recognize and groom actual talent. That's a rot in the heart of their business that isn't going away any time soon.