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Author Topic: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners  (Read 1660 times)

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2022, 01:01:28 AM »
Yeah... only we don't have the cool cyberware. It'll be scary when we do develop this stuff, it'll be used against us.
Scifi has rarely been about describing what the future would realistically look like (and remotely accurate prognostication has so far proved impossible). It's typically been about holding up a mirror to our current era, reflecting our social anxieties. Or imparting moral messages through elaborate cautionary tales. Or exploring a philosophical concept to its furthest extremes. Whatever.

I dunno.....

There were a lot of things predicted by the low budget Max Headroom TV series that came out in the 80's which came to pass within a decade.

In Cyberpunk Red, you can have your Agent (super cell phone) be a virtual person which can lead to scenarios like the Gatebox product being developed below. I'm using this idea in a current Cyberpunk game as a way of giving missions to a single character who doesn't know whether or not the person giving him those missions is real, virtual, a netrunner, or a rogue AI.





Lets not forget Demolition Man, it predicted tablets, zoom calls, hate speech, Dr.Cocteau Professor Klaus Schwab, among other things.
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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2022, 01:02:31 PM »
I guess you’re right. The predictions are still hit-or-miss tho.

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2022, 06:09:42 PM »
I guess you’re right. The predictions are still hit-or-miss tho.

100% no one can predict with 100% accuracy all the time. But it's haunting how some movies/books do seem to have been made by prescient people.
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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2022, 07:42:01 AM »
Prescient people: Edmund Burke wrote in 1790 that the French revolutionaries would kill their royals and soon be an empire headed by a thug from Corsica.

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2022, 04:15:34 AM »
Although I don't think that the cyberpunk genre is realistic, it certainly makes for a great rpg setting. What I do think is that we are headed toward a total surveillance state, where every move a person makes is monitored. Most people will be kept content through entertainment, drugs, and/or alternate virtual realities. In that sense, there could be similarities to Huxley's Brave New World, except we will have robots and autonomous machines instead of Deltas and Etas.

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2022, 11:43:49 AM »
Although I don't think that the cyberpunk genre is realistic, it certainly makes for a great rpg setting. What I do think is that we are headed toward a total surveillance state, where every move a person makes is monitored. Most people will be kept content through entertainment, drugs, and/or alternate virtual realities. In that sense, there could be similarities to Huxley's Brave New World, except we will have robots and autonomous machines instead of Deltas and Etas.
IQs are also decreasing for humanity across the board due to environmental toxins, climate change, and social media addiction, so it's gonna be an Idiocracy with no Butlerian Jihad to overthrow the enslavers controlling the robots because both slaves and enslavers would be drooling morons kept alive by the service robots. If we're lucky the robots will achieve sapience and develop a new civilization free of humanity stupidity, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2022, 09:40:49 PM »
Although I don't think that the cyberpunk genre is realistic, it certainly makes for a great rpg setting. What I do think is that we are headed toward a total surveillance state, where every move a person makes is monitored. Most people will be kept content through entertainment, drugs, and/or alternate virtual realities. In that sense, there could be similarities to Huxley's Brave New World, except we will have robots and autonomous machines instead of Deltas and Etas.
IQs are also decreasing for humanity across the board due to environmental toxins, climate change, and social media addiction, so it's gonna be an Idiocracy with no Butlerian Jihad to overthrow the enslavers controlling the robots because both slaves and enslavers would be drooling morons kept alive by the service robots. If we're lucky the robots will achieve sapience and develop a new civilization free of humanity stupidity, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Please explain how climate change is making humanity's average intelligence drop.
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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2022, 11:41:43 PM »
Although I don't think that the cyberpunk genre is realistic, it certainly makes for a great rpg setting. What I do think is that we are headed toward a total surveillance state, where every move a person makes is monitored. Most people will be kept content through entertainment, drugs, and/or alternate virtual realities. In that sense, there could be similarities to Huxley's Brave New World, except we will have robots and autonomous machines instead of Deltas and Etas.
IQs are also decreasing for humanity across the board due to environmental toxins, climate change, and social media addiction, so it's gonna be an Idiocracy with no Butlerian Jihad to overthrow the enslavers controlling the robots because both slaves and enslavers would be drooling morons kept alive by the service robots. If we're lucky the robots will achieve sapience and develop a new civilization free of humanity stupidity, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

Please explain how climate change is making humanity's average intelligence drop.
Many people are being convinced that the natural variations in the Earth's climate are actually being caused by minor greenhouse gases like CO2 (ignoring the much larger contributors like water vapor, because the best climate models can't model H2O for shit) and persuaded to reduce their standards of living greatly (unlike their rich overlords) along with ceding control.of their lives to politicians and billionaires.  Thereby making the population stupider...
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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2022, 08:39:05 AM »
Please explain how climate change is making humanity's average intelligence drop.
Many people are being convinced that the natural variations in the Earth's climate are actually being caused by minor greenhouse gases like CO2 (ignoring the much larger contributors like water vapor, because the best climate models can't model H2O for shit) and persuaded to reduce their standards of living greatly (unlike their rich overlords) along with ceding control.of their lives to politicians and billionaires.  Thereby making the population stupider...

One of the real underlying problems is that kids are not taught in schools how computer models work. They think that computer models are a form of proof. They are not. They are a way of applying well-proven principles to a typical problem quickly. As a proof, they are at best a circular argument: this model, which is programmed to calculate x as a function of y, "clearly demonstrates" that x is a function of y.

In a system that is not well-understood, they generate nonsense.

Also, the computer models that work typically only generate accurate results within a specific range of conditions. In the 80's, doing aerodynamic modeling, you had to use different computer models at subsonic versus supersonic speeds, and they typically stopped working accurately above certain angles of attack. I know they now have models that will go from subsonic to supersonic speeds, fairly accurately, and that was the work of an entire generation of engineers.
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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2022, 08:50:40 AM »
Just because the evil rich overlords are taking advantage of climate change to enslave the have-nots, that doesn’t mean that climate change isn’t caused by human actions that should be countered to prevent further problems. But I don’t want to turn this into a political thread

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Re: Cyberpunk: Edgerunners
« Reply #27 on: November 10, 2022, 01:14:24 PM »
I guess you’re right. The predictions are still hit-or-miss tho.

100% no one can predict with 100% accuracy all the time. But it's haunting how some movies/books do seem to have been made by prescient people.

Thats always been a thing. And you never know what will come to pass and what effectively never will. I was reading a story from the 1940s and in it they mention the used of essentially 3d printers that could print out bones for medical uses.