NYT obit here: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/06/movies/06heston.html?ref=movies

Hrm.  While he was a great actor, I was adamantly against his politics lately.  Mostly since taking over the NRA.

Godspeed, Charlton.  In heaven, God will keep the paws of those damn dirty apes off you forever.  

Aw, shit.

Epic actor, retarded politics.

Rest in peace, he will be remembered as the legend he was.

GOD, THESE RULES ARE SHIT!!!!!

You know, Charlton really kicked some ass.  They don't make actors like him anymore.  He wasn't subtle, but he was manly without being goofy.  And his dystopic trilogy (Soylent Green, Omega Man and of course Planet of the Apes) is a classic grouping in and of itself.  He gave me a great deal of viewing pleasure.  Thanks, Mr. Heston!  I hope they give you a nice gun closet up in heaven.

Quote from: CthyEpic actor, retarded politics.

Yeah, fuck black people getting to vote!

One of the worst things about Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine was how it took one of the most adamant crusaders against racism in Hollywood, confronted him while he was mentally deranged by Alzheimer's and managed to twist his words to make him sound like a racist.

Quote from: PseudoephedrineYeah, fuck black people getting to vote!

One of the worst things about Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine was how it took one of the most adamant crusaders against racism in Hollywood, confronted him while he was mentally deranged by Alzheimer's and managed to twist his words to make him sound like a racist.

It's a shame people only remember post 1980 Charlton Heston, and not pre-1980 Heston, when he was not only a strong supporter of the Kennedy's, but one of the most outspoken crusaders of equal rights.  And for a rich white man in the late 50s/early 60s to speak so heavily against racism, that was pretty rare.

Fuck.

Quote from: PseudoephedrineYeah, fuck black people getting to vote!

One of the worst things about Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine was how it took one of the most adamant crusaders against racism in Hollywood, confronted him while he was mentally deranged by Alzheimer's and managed to twist his words to make him sound like a racist.

Don't be a prick, his politics dodn't just revolve around the black vote. You do a bit of good, well done you, you do some bad shit well shame on you.

His views on guns and gun ownership are widely publicised - outside of a shit Moore documentary.

Quote from: Acta Est FabulaIt's a shame people only remember post 1980 Charlton Heston, and not pre-1980 Heston, when he was not only a strong supporter of the Kennedy's, but one of the most outspoken crusaders of equal rights.  And for a rich white man in the late 50s/early 60s to speak so heavily against racism, that was pretty rare.

Yeah - too bad if a man is more complex than the press (ot M
I also gew up watching Charlton Heston play tough guy heroes in movies - especially those three Science Fiction ones mentioned earlier.

Considering I shared half a name with him - I tended to always notice when he was in a movie.

- Ed Charlton

Quote from: CthyDon't be a prick, his politics dodn't just revolve around the black vote. You do a bit of good, well done you, you do some bad shit well shame on you.

His views on guns and gun ownership are widely publicised - outside of a shit Moore documentary.

Considering his "good" things (massive player in the early civil rights movement) had a much greater impact to society than his "bad" things (if you think the pro-gun rights are bad; many don't), I get the feeling that the above post comes across as, "Ice cream sundaes suck because they have those sprinkly nuts on top." when the rest of the sundae is delicious.

Well true, but just because the guy is dead does not make him a saint. He carried out some fantastic acts, from charitable donations to backing civil liberties.
He also advocated private gun ownership.

Y'all see, not such a bad guy after all. :rolleyes:

Quote from: CthyWell true, but just because the guy is dead does not make him a saint. He carried out some fantastic acts, from charitable donations to backing civil liberties.
He also advocated private gun ownership.

Y'all see, not such a bad guy after all. :rolleyes:

You're vilifying him for advocating the 2nd amendment, and wording it in a way that makes it seem that advocating private gun ownership is the negative flip side of fighting for equal rights?  You're entitled to your opinions, but there are worse things to vilify a person for.  Sure, he was a bit....over the top, but it's not like he was advocating anything that had a profound negative effect on a large group of people.  He was advocating a popular interpretation of the constitution.  Especially in the light of all the good he had done for people over his lifetime.

Unless you are, of course saying that advocating private gun ownership is the evil equivalent of fighting for equal rights.  But then you'd have to also agree, by that logic, that a person who wanted to prohibit people from owning guns would have made up for advocating apartheid and Jim Crow laws.

Tbh, you have a point. I think I came into this thread negatively - looking for a destructive argument rather than a constructive one. I mean, for fucks sack, the guy made Ben Hur, I have to give him respect for that.

I dont think your 2nd amendment is evil, just stupid. You should, however, have the right to arm bears. That should be international law.