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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2010, 10:46:23 PM »
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Even with the emphasis on Action!, we saw the characters thinking their way out of situations.
B'uh...wha?!?  Where in that movie did anyone "think" his or her way out of situations?  What we saw was a lengthy string of deus ex machina to extricate characters from their fates.

Bah.

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« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2010, 12:03:14 AM »
If BABYLON 5 had been a movie its general attitude about humans and human culture would make it qualify. It generally had the viewpoint that despite many faults, humankind had the capacity and potential for great goodness and kindness.
Interesting was the repeated theme of humans being unique in their efforts to constantly make communities when others wouldn't have that inclination.



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« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2010, 02:06:11 AM »
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An Inconvenient Truth, Avatar, and Dune.

Seriously, Ed. Let it go.

Is this thread part of an ongoing discussion?
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« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2010, 02:39:41 AM »
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Is this thread part of an ongoing discussion?


Yes and no.

Jong appears to be assuming that this thread was started as a response to some things said in the AVATAR threads.

Its not an ongoing discussion, tho it is a new question or discussion in response to some patterns and trends that might be there in modern entertainment of the past 30 years or so.
These trends seem to pop up more in recent movies or Sci Fi movies where the scripts are weak and the visuals are strong.


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« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2010, 09:44:32 AM »
McGyver. Although there are solely humans to begin with.
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« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2010, 12:16:40 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2010, 06:18:31 PM »
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I'd say it's more Pundy Jr. trying hard to take after Pundy Sr.

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« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2010, 08:38:15 PM »
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IMHO: Avatar.


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« Reply #23 on: January 09, 2010, 08:43:25 PM »
Starship Troopers !

This is the correct answer, right, Ed ?

Do I win the thread ?

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« Reply #24 on: January 09, 2010, 10:34:00 PM »
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Starship Troopers !

This is the correct answer, right, Ed ?

Do I win the thread ?

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NO.

Starship Troopers was done as a comedy/satire of War propaganda films.

If you don't believe me - find a copy of the DVD and play the commentary or the Behind The Scenes stuff.  The Director still had a pretty good memory of both Nazis and Communists in Europe from when he was kid.  He was quite surprised that the film critics didn't get the satiric point of view and style.


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« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2010, 10:42:42 PM »
You are totally making that up. You should be ashamed; they're going to take away your batleth away.
You are posting in a troll thread.

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« Reply #26 on: January 09, 2010, 10:53:42 PM »
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Starship Troopers was done as a comedy/satire of War propaganda films.

The Director still had a pretty good memory of both Nazis and Communists in Europe from when he was kid.  He was quite surprised that the film critics didn't get the satiric point of view and style.


I must confess I am amazed!

I know movie critics are not usually known for their keen intellect or deep insights; but still...

That movie "Would You Like To Know More?!" reels all but screamed: Space Fascists and Proud of It!
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« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2010, 11:38:16 PM »
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I must confess I am amazed!

I know movie critics are not usually known for their keen intellect or deep insights; but still...

That movie "Would You Like To Know More?!" reels all but screamed: Space Fascists and Proud of It!


Some didn't get it.

 What was even funnier were the critics who were mad at the stuff that was lifted directly from Heinlein, political comments and such.


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« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2010, 04:02:46 AM »
Why do you hate the Military, Ed ? :(

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« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2010, 01:13:27 PM »
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I must confess I am amazed!

I know movie critics are not usually known for their keen intellect or deep insights; but still...

That movie "Would You Like To Know More?!" reels all but screamed: Space Fascists and Proud of It!

I personally am more amazed that Ed actually watched the Behind the Scenes clips. Or maybe not

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