Quote from: KoltarCould a lawyer make a case that the website did something egregious?

The ability of a lawyer to do anything about it, is dependent on server location and local law. For example in germany (I study law there, so I use it as an example) any picture that is not part of a crowd (for example a concert audience) is subject to the will of those on the picture, so in germany any lawyer could shoot that down within a short time.
U.S. laws on the other hand often deemphasize many other rights when compared to free speech.

The terms of service for an ISP, Web Hosting Company, Free Message Board, Free Email (Gmail/Hotmail), and Domain Name Registrar will list the types of activities that are prohibited by users of those services.  Harrassment and threats are usually on the list, and they provide contact information for reporting problems.

Quote from: jhkimWow, this so goes beyond what I would have imagined.  Here's the latest in the SASS discussion, posting a picture of me and my family

John, these people are fucking assholes. Your reaction is understandable but I think the people suggesting you drop this are right. You are just prolonging this mess. You've been on the internet for a while. You know what's at work here: lack of accountability. I wish you could punch them in the face but you can't.

Still, it looks like you have a great family, while these losers jerk off alone in a basement.

Take care and be well!

I have nothing to add to the above (Consonant Dude sums it up nicely) but just want to join in the "what a bunch of wankers" chorus. To quote a meme that they no doubt originated "this is why we can't have nice things".

Ned

Smell this milk! IS it bad to you? I mean it's horrible to me...

Quote from: Serious PaulSmell this milk! IS it bad to you? I mean it's horrible to me...

No, it's REALLY rank!!  It's probably the worst thing I've ever smelled.  

What do you think?  

I think we need to find someone else to taste it too...

I dunno.
Maybe the whole con setup was actually like leaving the milk out in the sun.

Sure, the SA guys are the dregs of society, at least they behave like it. But what´s english for "Steilvorlage"?

Let´s say the Con-Setup gave them a field day, by handing them stuff on a silver platter.

I´m also puzzled at Mr. Kim:
You seem to be someone interested in how the male/female divide influences peoples behaviour. Coming to that thread with politeness mixed with threats, and wearing an "I Heart unicorns" shirt, you should know the primitive mechanisms that feed this kind, you again were a walking target.

Again, you should know the reasons for mysogyny and manly-manlyness combined with aggressive homophobia & the mocking of the weak. So I´m pretty amazed you tried to discuss with them that way. Looks naive to me.

I think people should be able to dress the way they want and be able to ask people who mock them about it without being called naive.
And to be honest, even after quite some time on message boards the sheer hatred of SA took me by surprise.

And I call you naive for that. Maybe you are less cynical and a better human being for it. But naive nonetheless.

Listen, I´m not saying it´s bad to be innocent. But someone digging in the "gender" debate or hanging out with feminists has long, long ago lost his intellectual innocence.

That someone is Mr. Kim, and I´m amazed he still acted this naive.

The whole point in the Con was being a safe haven against society. Why should anyone wonder that the ugliest parts of society attack and mock it?

The existance of people like this is the baseline upon which feminism and the con setup were built.

So either Mr. kim is HUGELY naive, or he´s subversively trying to influence people here. So that we all are shocked and have sympathies for the poor downtrodden misunderstood people at the con.

Quote from: SaphimI think people should be able to dress the way they want and be able to ask people who mock them about it without being called naive.
And to be honest, even after quite some time on message boards the sheer hatred of SA took me by surprise.

As much as I hate to do this, I agree 100% with Settembrini.  

He is correct, here in the real world if you dress like a slob you will be mocked for it, not get jobs, not be able to get into certain clubs, etc.

It may suck but it is reality

I don't think he is shocked that it happened, but the virulence and vehemence of it.  I think that's because when it happens to you, it hurts and you lose some perspective.  It's like getting hit in the face and losing your shit.  You just react because it hurts.

For me, the less on is don't post pictures of yourself on public online locations.  Or at least try to minimize them.

Yeah, the personal part IS disgusting. But see, for the misanthropes, it wasn´t personal.

There´s a lot of instances that even I myself would say someone has a "Backpfeifengesicht" (= a face that's just begging for someone to put their fist in it.)

It´s "just" hateful slur, not personal. If anyone, Mr. Kim made it personal himself. Especially with reposting it here.

So I´m torn. As a human being, he has my sympathies. But intellectually, it´s pretty naive.

I should fall silent, as this thread would be more entertaining with the MASTER posting...

Quote from: SettembriniYou seem to be someone interested in how the male/female divide influences peoples behaviour. Coming to that thread with politeness mixed with threats, and wearing an "I Heart unicorns" shirt, you should know the primitive mechanisms that feed this kind, you again were a walking target.

Again, you should know the reasons for mysogyny and manly-manlyness combined with aggressive homophobia & the mocking of the weak. So I´m pretty amazed you tried to discuss with them that way. Looks naive to me.

Eh?  The shirt was something I wear pretty often and had on at the Con, before I had any idea about SA or SASS.  Understand, I'm totally not interested in avoiding them mocking me.  If anything, I enjoy them mocking me personally.  (I just edited my Encyclopedia Dramatica picture caption from "pussy" to "gay unicorn-loving pussy", for example.)  

What surprised me was the extremity of it.  

Quote from: SettembriniSo either Mr. kim is HUGELY naive, or he´s subversively trying to influence people here. So that we all are shocked and have sympathies for the poor downtrodden misunderstood people at the con.

In a sense, that's true.  I almost always deal with people on the net straightforwardly and relatively politely.  If they act like assholes to that, then I figure that makes them look bad rather than making me look bad.  Is that subversive?  I'm not polite to people with naive illusions that it's going to suddenly cure all assholes and make them decent people.

Quote from: walkerpI don't think he is shocked that it happened, but the virulence and vehemence of it.  I think that's because when it happens to you, it hurts and you lose some perspective.  It's like getting hit in the face and losing your shit.  You just react because it hurts.

For me, the less on is don't post pictures of yourself on public online locations.  Or at least try to minimize them.

Yep, not posting your picture on the net is the best option.  and I wouldn't really worry about twits on the internet.  

Sure the guys on SA are internet tuff guys, they talk big when they have the protection of the internet, but in real life they are losers.

People like that insult others to mask their own pathetic lives.