This is a site for discussing roleplaying games. Have fun doing so, but there is one major rule: do not discuss political issues that aren't directly and uniquely related to the subject of the thread and about gaming. While this site is dedicated to free speech, the following will not be tolerated: devolving a thread into unrelated political discussion, sockpuppeting (using multiple and/or bogus accounts), disrupting topics without contributing to them, and posting images that could get someone fired in the workplace (an external link is OK, but clearly mark it as Not Safe For Work, or NSFW). If you receive a warning, please take it seriously and either move on to another topic or steer the discussion back to its original RPG-related theme.
The message boards have been upgraded. Please log in to your existing account by clicking here. It will ask twice, so that it can properly update your password and login information. If it has trouble recognizing your password, click the 'Forgot your password?' link to reset it with a new password sent to your email address on file.

Author Topic: An Open Letter to James McMurray  (Read 2966 times)

jrients

  • robodroid warlock
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3318
    • View Profile
    • http://jrients.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« on: December 11, 2006, 03:07:47 PM »
Dear Mr. McMurray,

Some days I suspect that you are engaged in a personal crusade against RPG Pundit.  It's like every time I read a post by Pundit there you are with some one-liner barb that seems to have little to do with the topic at hand.  We all got the memo that the Pundit is a jerk.  You don't have to remind us of that at every opportunity.  Your apparent need to constantly beat this drum is dragging down the level of discourse and undermining your own credibility.  The latter part is the real shame of the situation, as you have some cool stuff to say when you aren't tossing harpoons at your personal white whale.

I really hope you take the letter as the beginning of a friendly attempt to work this situation out.

Sincerely,

Jeff

PS: Pundit has flipped your account from 'regular user' to 'jack ass', which is an actual status on the site software.  Apparently this cripples your ability to edit posts and otherwise take back things you say.  So if you see some screwing functionality problems, that's why.  Feel free to take this up with him in Private Messages or on the Help Desk, as I had no part in making that call.  Personally, I would have preferred he had waited until after I wrote this to do anything.
Jeff Rients
My gameblog

RPGPundit

  • Administrator - The Final Boss of Internet Shitlords
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46553
    • View Profile
    • http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2006, 03:16:12 PM »
Consider him flipped back now.

RPGPundit
LION & DRAGON: Medieval-Authentic OSR Roleplaying is available now! You only THINK you've played 'medieval fantasy' until you play L&D.


My Blog:  http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/
The most famous uruguayan gaming blog on the planet!

NEW!
Check out my short OSR supplements series; The RPGPundit Presents!


Dark Albion: The Rose War! The OSR fantasy setting of the history that inspired Shakespeare and Martin alike.
Also available in Variant Cover form!
Also, now with the CULTS OF CHAOS cult-generation sourcebook

ARROWS OF INDRA
Arrows of Indra: The Old-School Epic Indian RPG!
NOW AVAILABLE: AoI in print form

LORDS OF OLYMPUS
The new Diceless RPG of multiversal power, adventure and intrigue, now available.

James McMurray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • J
  • Posts: 4790
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2006, 03:51:12 PM »
I was wondering why I had no PMs.

My last several posts to Pundit have all been in direct response to posts he makes to and about me. I've moved things not directly related to his posts to PMs, and had done so before this thread was created.

In the posts that I felt forced to reply to he makes false claims about my posting habits, my gaming habits, and my motivations. If telling someone they're wrong makes me a jackass, please flip me back.

edit: I'll also point out that, unlike Pundit to me, I have never said anything untrue about him. As I told him in one of the PMs, if he'll stop making shit up about me I'll stop telling him his shit is made up. Other than that I'd already stopped posting to him other than in direct reply to topics and posts about me.

jrients

  • robodroid warlock
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3318
    • View Profile
    • http://jrients.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2006, 04:27:13 PM »
Okay, fine.  Then howzabout we formally declare a truce?  Pundit, you publicly commit to stop talking smack about James.  James, you do the same.  First one to blow it loses face.

Deal?
Jeff Rients
My gameblog

jrients

  • robodroid warlock
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3318
    • View Profile
    • http://jrients.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2006, 05:13:43 PM »
Pundit doesn't want to come on this thread because he wants to avoid another flare-up.  But he has assured me that he is willing to make a new attempt to get along.  James, I would really appreciate it if you would give me the same assurances.  If you do, I will consider the present matter closed.
Jeff Rients
My gameblog

droog

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4862
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2006, 05:19:29 PM »
Aaaaaawwwwwww....
The past lives on in your front room
The poor still weak the rich still rule
History lives in the books at home
The books at home

Gang of Four
[/size]

rcsample

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • r
  • Posts: 264
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2006, 05:35:55 PM »
Quote from: droog
Aaaaaawwwwwww....



Can we have a group hug now?
 

David R

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • D
  • Posts: 6874
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2006, 06:32:07 PM »
Who says we push each others comfort zones? This is the forum where flame warriors go to find ...sniff... sniff ...some comfort :bawling:

Regards,
David R

Spike

  • Stroppy Pika of DOOM!!!!!
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8031
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2006, 07:13:32 PM »
Damn...

I was hoping to lock those two into a thread and let them REALLY go at it too...:(
For you the day you found a minor error in a Post by Spike and forced him to admit it, it was the greatest day of your internet life.  For me it was... Tuesday.

For the curious: Apparently, in person, I sound exactly like the Youtube Character The Nostalgia Critic.   I have no words.

Mah Book

Knightsky

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • K
  • Posts: 296
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2006, 07:59:37 PM »
Quote from: rcsample
Can we have a group hug now?
Only if you promise not to try to cop a feel this time.
Knightsky's Song Of The Moment - 2112 by Rush

Games for trade (RPG.net link)

James McMurray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • J
  • Posts: 4790
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2006, 10:05:59 PM »
Quote from: jrients
Pundit doesn't want to come on this thread because he wants to avoid another flare-up.  But he has assured me that he is willing to make a new attempt to get along.  James, I would really appreciate it if you would give me the same assurances.  If you do, I will consider the present matter closed.


Already did, but consider this the formal declaration. I'll keep my claws out of his ass if he'll stay away from my litter box. :)

JongWK

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3010
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2006, 07:39:42 AM »
Group hug!

:grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

;)
"I give the gift of endless imagination."
~~Gary Gygax (1938 - 2008)


jrients

  • robodroid warlock
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3318
    • View Profile
    • http://jrients.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2006, 09:30:56 AM »
Quote from: James McMurray
Already did, but consider this the formal declaration. I'll keep my claws out of his ass if he'll stay away from my litter box. :)


Thank you so much for making your intentions plain.  I'm glad we could work this out.
Jeff Rients
My gameblog

RPGPundit

  • Administrator - The Final Boss of Internet Shitlords
  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 46553
    • View Profile
    • http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2006, 07:16:28 AM »
Quote from: James McMurray
Already did, but consider this the formal declaration. I'll keep my claws out of his ass if he'll stay away from my litter box. :)


Time: 12-11-2006 11:05PM till 12-12-2006 11:48PM. 24 hrs and 43 minutes.

Well, at least he lasted over a day; unless you count this one, where he insinuatingly accuses me of not having read the books I'm commenting on, instead. In that case, he lasted only 21 hours.
I was willing to give that one the benefit of the doubt, but it certainly seems that James simply cannot resist trying to prove he's the big man around me.

Measures will be taken shortly.

RPGPundit
LION & DRAGON: Medieval-Authentic OSR Roleplaying is available now! You only THINK you've played 'medieval fantasy' until you play L&D.


My Blog:  http://therpgpundit.blogspot.com/
The most famous uruguayan gaming blog on the planet!

NEW!
Check out my short OSR supplements series; The RPGPundit Presents!


Dark Albion: The Rose War! The OSR fantasy setting of the history that inspired Shakespeare and Martin alike.
Also available in Variant Cover form!
Also, now with the CULTS OF CHAOS cult-generation sourcebook

ARROWS OF INDRA
Arrows of Indra: The Old-School Epic Indian RPG!
NOW AVAILABLE: AoI in print form

LORDS OF OLYMPUS
The new Diceless RPG of multiversal power, adventure and intrigue, now available.

James McMurray

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • J
  • Posts: 4790
    • View Profile
An Open Letter to James McMurray
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2006, 09:49:54 AM »
Really. Do you truly think, given my posting history for the last day (including some agreements and disagreements with you) that I'm somehow on the attack against you?

Do you not see where if someone mentions a game and you immediately lash out at that game, they're going to want to defend that game? My posts would have been exactly the same no matter who it was that jumped on a game I like, said it was nothing but a joke, and then created an entire thread just for the purpose of making sure everyone knows it's not a "real game."

Take whatever measure you feel are necessary. It's not like I can stop you. But I will say you're overreacting.

edit: cleaned up the wording a bit. The accusation that I'm still trying to compete with Pundit got me a bit hot under the collar at first, and I've removed the results of that.