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AHSOKA (2023) - Delayed Spoilers

Started by Lurkndog, August 20, 2023, 09:34:31 AM

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Lurkndog

Disney+ drops the latest Star Wars streaming series, AHSOKA, on Tuesday night, August 22nd, 2023.

They've done a last-minute switch in the release date. Instead of dropping early on Wednesday morning, the show is now releasing Tuesday at 9 PM EDT, and the premiere will be the first two episodes.

The short version: former Jedi padawan Ahsoka Tano from The Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels, and cameos on The Mandalorian and Book of Boba Fett, gets her own live action series. She will be joined by characters from Star Wars Rebels and The Clone Wars, including Hera Syndulla and Sabine Wren.

Eckhardt's Ladder has a spoiler-free introduction to the show on their YouTube channel:


Please hold off on spoilers until the Saturday after a new episode is released.


Ratman_tf

Lukewarm on this one. I'm going to wait to hear all yall's opinions before watching.
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hedgehobbit

Didn't Ahsoka die during an episode of Rebels? I seem to remember a scene where she is about to fight Vader and then tells the other Rebel characters to run and the scene ends with her holding of Vader (and, presumably, dying in the process).

Star Wars has really embraced their multiple continuities, with characters from the TV show never being mentioned in the movies, but existing is a strange alternate reality where nothing they do matters to the main movie plot.

Wisithir

Quote from: hedgehobbit on August 21, 2023, 11:18:21 AM
Didn't Ahsoka die during an episode of Rebels?

Did not die on screen, presumed dead but disappeared into the force instead and has since reappeared.

Lurkndog

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Quote from: hedgehobbit on August 21, 2023, 11:18:21 AM
Didn't Ahsoka die during an episode of Rebels? I seem to remember a scene where she is about to fight Vader and then tells the other Rebel characters to run and the scene ends with her holding of Vader (and, presumably, dying in the process).

Star Wars has really embraced their multiple continuities, with characters from the TV show never being mentioned in the movies, but existing is a strange alternate reality where nothing they do matters to the main movie plot.

Like Wisithir said, Ahsoka didn't die. She was rescued by Ezra Bridger, who pulled her from doom using a force magic construct called The World Between Worlds, and set her onto a different path. This happens in Season 4 Episode 13 of Star Wars Rebels. Rebels really pushed hard into Force mysticism towards the end of its run.

The writers of Star Wars Rebels did a good job of writing their force sensitive characters out of the ROTJ timeline. Kanaan Jarus/Caleb Dume dies saving his team, Ahsoka disappears into mystery, and may have time-jumped past the events of ROTJ, and Ezra Bridger is taken so far away as to be out of the picture (pun intended).

Lurkndog

First two episodes have dropped, 57 and 44 minutes long.

Not an instant home run for me, but still quite solid. A lot of personal history of the main characters is sketched out. There is more character depth than in Star Wars Rebels. There are conflicts between our heroes that occurred in the time between the end of Rebels and the beginning of Ahsoka that are not yet fully revealed.

It's a bit of a slow burn, but the pace is deliberate, and the show moves forward steadily. More like Andor than the quicker pace of The Mandalorian or Rebels, which I wasn't expecting.

Spoilers on Saturday, have a good week everyone.

Tait Ransom

I watched it with a group of friends and we're all Star Wars fans.  We all enjoyed both episodes!  I hope it holds up throughout the run!

Thornhammer

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 20, 2023, 11:17:07 PM
Lukewarm on this one. I'm going to wait to hear all yall's opinions before watching.

This one has a better rolling start than Andor. It's good.

GeekyBugle

Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 20, 2023, 11:17:07 PM
Lukewarm on this one. I'm going to wait to hear all yall's opinions before watching.

One minor spoiler or two:

Rosario Dawson is too old for some action scenes and they should have used digital magic on those
Light Sabers still don't kill you as per the Disney Wars movies

Fuck this shit and fuck Disney, if I wasn't watching it for free with my friend Jack Sparrow I would cancel my inexistent subscription.
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Ratman_tf

Well, I figured I'd give the first eppy a go. I don't know if it's my system, but DisneyPlus just chokes and dies when I try to load the episode. I had this issue with The Mandalorian/Book of Boba Fett too. I don't have it with Paramount Plus.

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Ratman_tf

Finally got it to load. Watched episode one. As a fan of Rebels, (I need to finish the series, but I liked what I saw of it) I liked this very much. Some solid Star Wars themes.
It's really criminal that Clone Wars and Rebels had to put in the heavy lifting of making Anakin's fall more palatable. the Prequels really botched so much.
Ahsoka really feels like part of the films. The Padawan who walked away, and was never there to back up her Master when he needed her. Rosario is doing a fine job portraying that.

Having said that, I'm dreading them fucking this up. I feel that with every Star Wars product after the Sequels.
So far, so good.
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jeff37923

Quote from: Thornhammer on August 23, 2023, 08:16:38 PM
Quote from: Ratman_tf on August 20, 2023, 11:17:07 PM
Lukewarm on this one. I'm going to wait to hear all yall's opinions before watching.

This one has a better rolling start than Andor. It's good.

Yeah, Andor just sorta plodded along.
"Meh."

Thornhammer

C'mon, nobody?

Okay I'll go.

I really dig the bad guys in this one. Not so much the Nightsister (she's fine, just not as good as the other two), but Baylan Skoll and...wassername. I'm calling her Tay'Lor Swift. I don't think they are Sith. Orange lightsabers and Swiftie has the padawan braid. I like that they tried the subtle approach before going apeshit.

I liked the Phantom II doing the duck-dodge-dip-dive-dodge bit and Chopper getting pissed off about Hera fucking with his stuff.

Speaking of Hera, wow that's a strikingly pretty woman, even covered in green.

I see a lot of bitching about Sabine's lightsaber stab being nonlethal. That was a precision strike. If they wanted her dead, it would have been a flick of the wrist to make it happen. Probably. Fuck, we've seen Darth Maul survive getting bisected by one.

Anyway. I liked Andor - it was different. It didn't have Jedi. But it is nice to get back to some familiar characters, and dammit I love lightsabers. I liked the first two episodes of this.




GeekyBugle

Quote from: Thornhammer on August 26, 2023, 11:14:04 PM
C'mon, nobody?

Okay I'll go.

I really dig the bad guys in this one. Not so much the Nightsister (she's fine, just not as good as the other two), but Baylan Skoll and...wassername. I'm calling her Tay'Lor Swift. I don't think they are Sith. Orange lightsabers and Swiftie has the padawan braid. I like that they tried the subtle approach before going apeshit.

I liked the Phantom II doing the duck-dodge-dip-dive-dodge bit and Chopper getting pissed off about Hera fucking with his stuff.

Speaking of Hera, wow that's a strikingly pretty woman, even covered in green.

I see a lot of bitching about Sabine's lightsaber stab being nonlethal. That was a precision strike. If they wanted her dead, it would have been a flick of the wrist to make it happen. Probably. Fuck, we've seen Darth Maul survive getting bisected by one.

Anyway. I liked Andor - it was different. It didn't have Jedi. But it is nice to get back to some familiar characters, and dammit I love lightsabers. I liked the first two episodes of this.

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Lurkndog

Sorry, I got sidelined by real world stuff yesterday.

I don't mind Sabine surviving, I don't think they're nerfing lightsabers. I mean, ask Captain Hayle of the prison ship, or all of those HK droids.

In fact, I think it was a bold stroke to have a major character lose a lightsaber duel right out of the gate.

I don't think Shin Hati deliberately spared Sabine, though she may have been toying with her somewhat.  Sabine just got lucky that she was hit well off-center, and received immediate medical care.  I think Shin Hati sensed Ahsoka heading her way, took the win, and left with the map.

One thing I really liked was the view of Corellia we got. Sunny shipyards, with none of the overbearing brutalist tones that we saw in Solo. It just felt more like Star Wars.

One thing that didn't work all that well was Baylan Skoll's corridor battle. It was clearly meant to evoke Darth Vader in Rogue One, but it falls far short of that. It's too neat, too well-lit, and too bloodless.