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AHSOKA (2023) - Delayed Spoilers

Started by Lurkndog, August 20, 2023, 09:34:31 AM

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Thornhammer

Ezra walking out of an Imperial shuttle in full stormtrooper armor was stupid as hell. I ached for him to get shot at least once for being that dumb.

The zombie stormtroopers, I kinda liked those.

Lurkndog

I didn't like the story of Sabine getting force powers. At all.

It is more like a superhero origin story than something we would see in Star Wars.

Historically, when someone is strong in the force, other force users pick up on it instantly. "The force is strong in this one." And once they are trained a little, they begin to feel it immediately.

So the rule now is that anyone can learn to use the force, even if you already tried in vain for years? That's kinda bullshit, if you ask me. Especially when Sabine went from nothing, to  full-on telekinesis, to full-on powerful telekinesis in the span of minutes. Her force-pushing Ezra onto the Star Destroyer was more powerful than anything Luke did in Episode IV. Luke did a force jump at the end of ESB that is broadly comparable, but that happened after he had trained with Yoda for however long.

And the worst part is, Sabine was GREAT when she was running around in her armor, shooting stuff, and occasionally pulling out the saber. She didn't need force powers to be a great fun character, and in fact she was a lot more fun without them.


Lurkndog

Overall I'm pretty mixed about Ahsoka.  When it is good, it is very good. Episodes 4, 5 and 6 were standouts. But it is uneven, and they didn't nail the ending.

As a fan of Star Wars Rebels, I think they've done an excellent job bringing those characters to live action, probably better than I was expecting.

I think they made Ezra into a little too much of a goofball. His story arc in Rebels was to grow up from being a smartass street punk to becoming a serious, grounded legit Jedi. Now it seems he has gone back to being a goofball.

They did a good job establishing Baylan Skoll and Shin Hati, but they didn't give either of them a proper ending. 

Hera didn't get anything like a full story arc either, or her son Jacen.

I don't like the theme of the New Republic being losers.  Perhaps they are setting the stage for the OT characters to retake the stage and set things right, or maybe they have something else in mind, but what they're doing now is weak storytelling.

I think they did a good job bringing Thrawn to live action. He is a competent villain, but not flawless. You see the mask crack a few times, and malice and cruelty shine through. I look forward to seeing more of him.

Honestly, I was a bit surprised to see Thrawn as diminished as he was. He had a fraction of the forces left that he had when he was sent into exile.

Claudia Black was very good as the Queen Mother of the Night Sisters.

Thornhammer

I wouldn't have known that was Claudia Black if someone had not mentioned it.

Baylan Skoll was the highlight of the series for me. By quite a bit, and Ray Stevenson's death is a damned shame.

trechriron

ZOMBIE STORMTROOPERS!!! SQEEEEEEEE!!

...runs around in circles with glee...
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
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Chris24601

Quote from: trechriron on October 09, 2023, 01:02:35 AM
ZOMBIE STORMTROOPERS!!! SQEEEEEEEE!!

...runs around in circles with glee...
While I disagree on the "glee" part, I do agree that zombie stormtroopers is absolutely the most on-the-nose thing ever for depicting the current state of the franchise.

trechriron

Quote from: Chris24601 on October 09, 2023, 08:30:17 AM
While I disagree on the "glee" part, I do agree that zombie stormtroopers is absolutely the most on-the-nose thing ever for depicting the current state of the franchise.

Bah humbug. I'm enjoying all the new Star Wars. And with all the Sith Lord necromancy going about AND advanced cybernetics in the setting, it made no sense to me that they didn't breed zombie-cyber hybrids that could keep on truckin after a blaster hit. Also, no fatigue and extra muscle = heavier armor AND bigger weapons.

I just loved that when the super-trooper's mask was cut off, it was trying to literally eat Sabine. It's honestly a fantastic evil GM thing to do.

"I've shot that damn trooper 6 times now and it keeps getting up!" - Player

"Yep, who needs to be a marksman when you can just walk up after taking 6 hits and eat your opponents." - GM
Trentin C Bergeron (trechriron)
Bard, Creative & RPG Enthusiast

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hedgehobbit

I'm sure yall have seen this. It's a trailer for Ahsoka done in the style of an 80s TV show.


Ratman_tf

I've actually hesitated to watch the last epsiode due to the zombies. I feel like zombies are off theme for Star Wars. Unless handled correctly, and even then, there are better ways to do that theme that don't involve undead or force-undeath or whatever.

Gonna have to watch the show to have a specific opinion. Maybe tonight.
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Ratman_tf

Ok, watched.

I seem to have figured out my issue. Clicking on the episode from the menu list doesn't work for me, but when from the "featured" episode, it loads. Go figger.

Anyway, liked it. They're obviously setting up for another season, or something down the road as this was a "sequel" to the Rebel series, as that was a continuation of the Clone Wars show. That's fine with me.

Zombies didn't bother me that much. I'm wondering if all the troops are zombies (the dark trooper types guys didn't have glowy eyes, but were zombified) or just some of them.

Sabine getting force powers felt like too many Jedi. I like it when there's a mix of character types.

Altogether, I'm good with this series. Coulda been much worse.



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Ratman_tf

Quote from: Thornhammer on October 07, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
Ezra walking out of an Imperial shuttle in full stormtrooper armor was stupid as hell. I ached for him to get shot at least once for being that dumb.


Yeah. They obviously wanted to do the helmet reveal. Probably a better way would be for him to be helmetless and step out of the fog. They'd get their "What is this, a Stormtrooper? It's Ezra!" scene without having him wear the helmet for no apparent reason except for dramatic moment.
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Klava

finished watching - and it's very good, imo. not perfect by any means, but it's the best star wars i've seen since rebels. will definitely watch again.
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Lurkndog

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Quote from: Ratman_tf on October 12, 2023, 04:26:02 AM

Zombies didn't bother me that much. I'm wondering if all the troops are zombies (the dark trooper types guys didn't have glowy eyes, but were zombified) or just some of them.

If they were all zombies, there would have been no need for volunteers.

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Sabine getting force powers felt like too many Jedi. I like it when there's a mix of character types.
I think they spent way too much time setting it up, and I didn't like the result.

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Altogether, I'm good with this series. Coulda been much worse.
I feel like that's damning the show with faint praise.

Just the imagery alone was worth the trip.

I just wish we'd gotten the ending of the season instead of leaving it  in the middle.

Ratman_tf

Quote from: Lurkndog on October 12, 2023, 08:26:48 PM
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Altogether, I'm good with this series. Coulda been much worse.
I feel like that's damning the show with faint praise.

That's where we're at with Star Wars.
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Lurkndog

Quote from: Thornhammer on October 07, 2023, 03:06:37 PM
Ezra walking out of an Imperial shuttle in full stormtrooper armor was stupid as hell. I ached for him to get shot at least once for being that dumb.

Didn't he have a radio on that shuttle? "This is Spectre 6 calling New Republic. I have urgent news about Grand Admiral Thrawn."