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Zalmoxis

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« Reply #135 on: February 21, 2007, 04:44:55 pm »
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But locking them away forever where they may very well be sodomized until the day they die is ok?


That's not the reality for child molestors. Most of them are put in areas with others of their kind or are locked up in private cells for their own safety.

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« Reply #136 on: February 21, 2007, 04:53:16 pm »
Then it's being done wrong. More spiked dildos, fewer pillows. That's my recipe for child molester justice. :)

Also, source?

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« Reply #137 on: February 21, 2007, 05:00:17 pm »
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Then it's being done wrong. More spiked dildos, fewer pillows. That's my recipe for child molester justice. :)

Also, source?


I used to work in conjunction with law enforcement and one of the guys from my office (in Louisiana) was arrested for molestation. I was told that's the way it works pretty much nationwide.

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« Reply #138 on: February 21, 2007, 05:06:40 pm »
With any luck his file got mixed up with someone else's. Child Molestation is one of the few crimes I think is worthy of death by slow torture.

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« Reply #139 on: February 21, 2007, 05:11:29 pm »
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With any luck his file got mixed up with someone else's. Child Molestation is one of the few crimes I think is worthy of death by slow torture.


I agree with you totally, assuming they're really guilty of the crime.

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« Reply #140 on: February 21, 2007, 05:28:06 pm »
Of course the assumption is they're guilty. If I ever suggest a punishment, please assume there's an "assuming they're deserving" attached. :)

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« Reply #141 on: February 21, 2007, 07:37:37 pm »
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I used to work in conjunction with law enforcement and one of the guys from my office (in Louisiana) was arrested for molestation. I was told that's the way it works pretty much nationwide.


Oh, it gets even better than that.  In the sex crimes prison in Avenel, New Jersey, sex offenders (including molesters) are not only allowed to have subscriptions to pornography but are encouraged to have homosexual relations with other inmates to help them have develop emotional bonds with others.
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« Reply #142 on: February 25, 2007, 09:00:37 am »
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Define "poor." My definition would be somewhere around "if you can't feed and shelter your baby, you can't have one." If that means that only the rich can breed we've got widely disparate views of what words like "rich" and "wealthy" mean.

Too unworkable, at least with America's "I deserve it because I'm alive" value system.
I'll say it again: we (America) already take peopls' children away if they cannot provide for them properly. Why should we wait until the damage has been done to step in?
And I'll say something else again: we can drop the monetary portion of the discussion completely. Does that change anyone's viewpoint? Is it ok to tell a repeat offendor child molester that he can't have a baby of his own to "love" and to "cherish"?


Why define poor? We know what it means unless we've been on the planet Nox since we were born.If you don't know what poor means you really should be getting out more into the REAL world and not bother trying to derail this site into a right wing dingbats wankposting forum.
What you propose, stopping certain people you don't like from breeding is completely unworkable.Because it is exactly the same policy that the Nazis adopted. And a lot of governments don't want their citizens thinking they are Nazis as it would soon lead to some form of revolt.I am surprized that you proposed such a nasty idea that is quite clearly fascist.
Taking people's babies away from them is not the same as sterilizing them or aborting the babies beforehand. A child taken from parents who are, say, drug addicts will go into care until the parents can show that they are capable of looking after their kids.
Why should we drop the notion you brought up, that poor folks be stopped from breeding? It seems central to the fascist idea that only an elite of morally high folks are worthy to have children. Why do you wish to squirm out of the foul notion you so casually brought up?
A repeat offender child molester will most likely not be allowed to parent a child without supervision by social services ( at least this is my understanding of what would happen in Britain) . They may even have the child taken from them and put into foster care.
Are you trying to subvert this site into becoming a place to air your Nazi inspired ideas or are you trying to beat Dominus Nox for "Jackbooted Fascist Sad Wannabe Of The Year" award?
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« Reply #143 on: February 25, 2007, 01:57:14 pm »
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Why define poor?


Because if it's going to be used as a condition in a law it needs a well defined boundary line.

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If you don't know what poor means you really should be getting out more into the REAL world and not bother trying to derail this site into a right wing dingbats wankposting forum.


Son, I grew up poor, so wander on and quit trying to teach your grandparents to suck eggs. :)

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What you propose, stopping certain people you don't like from breeding is completely unworkable


Yeah, I know. Or did you miss the many times where I said it wouldn't work? I'm discussing an idea here, not laying out a plan for when the revolution comes.

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Why should we drop the notion you brought up, that poor folks be stopped from breeding? It seems central to the fascist idea that only an elite of morally high folks are worthy to have children. Why do you wish to squirm out of the foul notion you so casually brought up?


Because I'm discussing an idea here. If part of that idea makes a discussion impossible beyond the bounds of that section, then I'd rather drop that section and discuss the rest.

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Are you trying to subvert this site into becoming a place to air your Nazi inspired ideas or are you trying to beat Dominus Nox for "Jackbooted Fascist Sad Wannabe Of The Year" award?


Yes, obviously that's it. It couldn't be that (as per the opening post) some people were discussing the idea in another thread, requested a new thread, and I obliged.

Did you have anything constructive to add, or did you just want to insult me? From your post it seems as if you haven't even actually read the thread, since all your concerns are either ufounded or have already been addressed.

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« Reply #144 on: February 28, 2007, 11:08:04 am »
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Because if it's going to be used as a condition in a law it needs a well defined boundary line.Son, I grew up poor, so wander on and quit trying to teach your grandparents to suck eggs. :)
Yeah, I know. Or did you miss the many times where I said it wouldn't work? I'm discussing an idea here, not laying out a plan for when the revolution comes.
Because I'm discussing an idea here. If part of that idea makes a discussion impossible beyond the bounds of that section, then I'd rather drop that section and discuss the rest.
Yes, obviously that's it. It couldn't be that (as per the opening post) some people were discussing the idea in another thread, requested a new thread, and I obliged.
Did you have anything constructive to add, or did you just want to insult me? From your post it seems as if you haven't even actually read the thread, since all your concerns are either ufounded or have already been addressed.


Boy, you're not the only one grew up poor.;)
Why bother discussing a plan that obviously makes you seem more right wing than a closet full o' Nazis?
I had something constructive to add (All this talk of breeding rights is elitist Nazi shit) no matter what scapegoat it is used against. I've read the thread and wanted to come on it to give you a ribbing for promoting such fucking fascistic stuff. Is that okay by you?:p
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« Reply #145 on: February 28, 2007, 11:27:53 am »
Go for it. Just don't expect calling me a Nazi to have any actual effect on my behavior beyond making me laugh at you. :)