Quote from: chirine ba kal;937776Well, there are a lot of opportunities for meeting people. Getting invites to social affairs is one, another is being told to show up at official functions at the temple or somebody's palace. Clans throw big social events where they let just about anybody in, with only the most socially unacceptable people - like slavers - excluded. We used to have to show up at a lot of these clambakes, where having connections to the host was a big thing for both ourselves or the hosts - "why, yes, (insert name here) is a good friend of mine, and was able to come to the party! Isn't it wonderful that they're here! Etc."

So, 'hangouts' can include your temple, your clan house, your local government palaces, your legion headquarters, some of the merchant's shops you frequent - armorers are particularly noted for this, as are antiquities dealers and food and wine merchants - as having your august presence in the shop helps with sales: "Yes, of course noble one, I hope you will be kind enough to take some refreshment while the Highborn concludes her business with our house..." The person waiting gains status for being so polite, the previous customer gains status for being equally polite, and the merchant gain status for having such impressive clients...

I always thought that there would be mileage in a modified version of "En Garde" (the early play-by-post/semi-RPG system) for Tekumel - regiments become legions, posts are similar but could be for Temples, Bureaucracy etc, characters can duel in arenas, conspicuous consumption etc would be similar. Flashing Blades might be another one that could work.

Quote from: chirine ba kal;937935No, no - didn't mind at all! You are quite on the money - the people we ran into in Phil's game sessions were, for us, real people doing real things, and ew had the opportunity to tag along for the ride. And on occasion, we'd do something for them, and they'd do something for us.

And if I may express an opinion here, while the title of the thread may be 'Questioning Chirine ba Kal', I don't think of it as some sort of Personal Appearance thing where my Awesome Magnificence is sitting up on stage being adored by the hoi polloi and I deign to answer their pathetic inquiries. (I leave that for other people, to be honest.) I look at this thread as being a bunch of friends sitting in the corner booth down the pub and having a good time batting ideas back and forth. I am enjoying this, as I enjoy talking about the antics we got up to, back in the day...

OK, Uncle. I figured that's your likely answer, but you know what they say, better safe than sorry...

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;938066I've been gleaning this thread for things I need to put into my chapter on Phil and Tekumel, and I noticed a place where I was unclear.

I meant "beat the living hell out of him" in the game, not actually commit physical mayhem.

Suspected that much, but it's always best to be clear;).

Quote from: d(sqrt(-1));938067I always thought that there would be mileage in a modified version of "En Garde" (the early play-by-post/semi-RPG system) for Tekumel - regiments become legions, posts are similar but could be for Temples, Bureaucracy etc, characters can duel in arenas, conspicuous consumption etc would be similar. Flashing Blades might be another one that could work.

You're not the only one. I have long considered swaschbuckling, swords and sorcery and sword and planet to be the same genre in three different settings, but for some reason people get all riled up when I suggest it:D!
I would consider Honor+Intrigue as well, but that's about all I can add;).

HappyNewYear!!!

Quote from: Gronan of Simmerya;938066I've been gleaning this thread for things I need to put into my chapter on Phil and Tekumel, and I noticed a place where I was unclear.

I meant "beat the living hell out of him" in the game, not actually commit physical mayhem.

Dig away, my General!

Understood; we had a long discussion about this very same subject last night, with a bunch of us old farts tying to figure out when a bunch of friends dropping by and having a lot of laughs became Serious Business. Interestingly, the young folks present - who are the sons and daughters of the old farts - told us that they'd be a lot more interested in our style of gaming then what they normally see in their own gaming.

So, if you want my opinion, there may be hope yet...

Quote from: d(sqrt(-1));938067I always thought that there would be mileage in a modified version of "En Garde" (the early play-by-post/semi-RPG system) for Tekumel - regiments become legions, posts are similar but could be for Temples, Bureaucracy etc, characters can duel in arenas, conspicuous consumption etc would be similar. Flashing Blades might be another one that could work.

Oh, yes, very much so! The Tekumel we played in was very much of this genre, and not the Serious Business it seems to have become in the late 1990s.

Quote from: AsenRG;938068OK, Uncle. I figured that's your likely answer, but you know what they say, better safe than sorry...


Suspected that much, but it's always best to be clear;).


You're not the only one. I have long considered swaschbuckling, swords and sorcery and sword and planet to be the same genre in three different settings, but for some reason people get all riled up when I suggest it:D!
I would consider Honor+Intrigue as well, but that's about all I can add;).

No problem!

Yep; 'swashbuckling' and the mindset that goes with it seem to have become unfashionable, what with gaming being Serious Business for Serious People.

"Three Musketeers" would not go over well with these people, sad to say...

Quote from: Hrugga;938081HappyNewYear!!!

Indeed!

It's starting out quite well; with the Missus getting her biopsy results back - negative, we are delighted to say, and a lot of worry and stress taken away from us. Had a great time last night, with lots of old friends and their kids, and sparkling wit in the brilliant conversation. We enjoyed ourselves, we did.

Quote from: chirine ba kal;938108Indeed!

It's starting out quite well; with the Missus getting her biopsy results back - negative, we are delighted to say, and a lot of worry and stress taken away from us. Had a great time last night, with lots of old friends and their kids, and sparkling wit in the brilliant conversation. We enjoyed ourselves, we did.

Ahhh Uncle, We are most pleased to hear it!!! All the best to you and yours!!! And to all of those here as well!!!

H:0)

PS Last nights wishes were done in the same "spirits"(though quickly)...!!!

Happy New Year!

Quote from: chirine ba kal;938107No problem!

Yep; 'swashbuckling' and the mindset that goes with it seem to have become unfashionable, what with gaming being Serious Business for Serious People.

"Three Musketeers" would not go over well with these people, sad to say...

Unfashionable? I dare say not, it has just been incorporated into all genres for all I can tell. And yes, it's even where it doesn't fit at all.
The keyword they use today is "cinematic"...

Quote from: chirine ba kal;938108Indeed!

It's starting out quite well; with the Missus getting her biopsy results back - negative, we are delighted to say, and a lot of worry and stress taken away from us. Had a great time last night, with lots of old friends and their kids, and sparkling wit in the brilliant conversation. We enjoyed ourselves, we did.

Glad to hear that, Uncle, especially the health results!
Also, it's far more noble to have fun than to worry about ignobly stupid people, I keep saying;)!

Quote from: Hrugga;938127Ahhh Uncle, We are most pleased to hear it!!! All the best to you and yours!!! And to all of those here as well!!!

H:0)

PS Last nights wishes were done in the same "spirits"(though quickly)...!!!

Thank you, and the same best wishes for you, as well!

Yes, we're pretty happy, and there's a lot of stress and worry gone. Regular check-ups needed, of course, but it's a lot quieter around here...

Quote from: AsenRG;938150Happy New Year!

Unfashionable? I dare say not, it has just been incorporated into all genres for all I can tell. And yes, it's even where it doesn't fit at all.
The keyword they use today is "cinematic"...

Glad to hear that, Uncle, especially the health results!
Also, it's far more noble to have fun than to worry about ignobly stupid people, I keep saying;)!

That's interesting; I've always played in a certain 'cinematic' style, and what we called 'swashbuckling' play was a part of that.

I'm still learning the modern usages of the words, of course; what I think they mean seems, on occasion, not to have the same meaning for modern gamers.

Thank you - we're pretty relieved! And yes, avoiding stupid people - which I've been doing for the past year - has made our lives here much, much better. And nice and quiet, too...

Quote from: chirine ba kal;938236That's interesting; I've always played in a certain 'cinematic' style, and what we called 'swashbuckling' play was a part of that.

I'm still learning the modern usages of the words, of course; what I think they mean seems, on occasion, not to have the same meaning for modern gamers.

Thank you - we're pretty relieved! And yes, avoiding stupid people - which I've been doing for the past year - has made our lives here much, much better. And nice and quiet, too...

Yeah, Uncle, but the difference is, today there's way too many people that refuse trying those same things unless they're sure the characters wouldn't die from it...

Anyway, glad you're having some calm times. Now for a question both you and Gronan might have some fun answering...

Would you please look over at those books here? Then tell us whether you know the authors and whether it looks like a serious research?
http://www.rpgnow.com/browse/pub/7178/Kent-David-Kelly
If answering in an open forum would be too much of a bother, just PM me, please;)!

Shrug.  Never heard of the guy.

Quote from: AsenRG;938256Yeah, Uncle, but the difference is, today there's way too many people that refuse trying those same things unless they're sure the characters wouldn't die from it...

Which I find odd; we were always very aware of the fact that we were risking our PCs lives all the time, and so tended to do 'risk evaluations' all the time as well.

Quote from: AsenRG;938256Anyway, glad you're having some calm times. Now for a question both you and Gronan might have some fun answering...

Would you please look over at those books here? Then tell us whether you know the authors and whether it looks like a serious research?
http://www.rpgnow.com/browse/pub/7178/Kent-David-Kelly
If answering in an open forum would be too much of a bother, just PM me, please;)!

Same as Gronan; never heard of the guy. I have heard of the two books; the local Arnesonians are apparently peeved that they were not intereviewed by this guy for his books. I read the liner notes, and it looks like yet another guy who has gone to Lake Geneva for his information; as well as doing some pretty good trawling through the published sources for information. No idea if it's the usual third-hand' "I talked to somebody who talked to Gary" kind of thing.

Personally, I prefer my information from primary and/or first hand sources. (Which is why I have a basement full of first-hand crap.) So I can't speak to the reliability of these two books, sorry.