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Youtuber violently assaulted at Gencon by sjw

Started by mhensley, August 02, 2018, 06:31:51 PM

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Pyromancer

#525
August 16, 2018, 11:55:04 AM
Quote from: The Exploited.;1053130From my observations 95% of adults cannot fight their way out of a paper bag. Because it's a lost skill... Average people just don't need to be able to fight. Anyone can be sucker punched if they don't understand the attack ritual.

Martial Arts Class
Student: "Master, how do I defend myself when I am in a seedy bar, and when I leave, a suspicious man follow me and..."
Master: "Don't go to a seedy bar in the first place."
"From a strange, hostile sky you return home to the world of humans. But you were already gone for so long, and so far away, and so you don\'t even know if your return pleases or pains you."

The Exploited.

#526
August 16, 2018, 11:59:02 AM
Quote from: Brad;1053134Also, this is why carrying is a good idea...

To paraphrase another one of my other heroes Kelly McCann, hand-to-hand combat is only for those foolish enough to get caught without a weapon.

However, for us Europeans carrying a weapon can lead you into a lot of trouble. In my country, in theory anyway, I could have a five year prison sentence just for carrying a blade. Of course, this doesn't deter scumbag criminals. :(
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The Exploited.

#527
August 16, 2018, 12:06:31 PM
Quote from: Pyromancer;1053135Martial Arts Class
Student: "Master, how do I defend myself when I am in a seedy bar, and when I leave, a suspicious man follow me and..."
Master: "Don't go to a seedy bar in the first place."

Absolutely for the most part. However, bad people go to good places, unfortunately.
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\'Attack minded and dangerously so.\' - W. E. Fairbairn.

Lynn

#528
August 16, 2018, 12:25:07 PM
Quote from: Pyromancer;1053135Martial Arts Class
Student: "Master, how do I defend myself when I am in a seedy bar, and when I leave, a suspicious man follow me and..."
Master: "Don't go to a seedy bar in the first place."

Sad to say, this gets turned around into a 'blaming the victim' accusation quite easily, because the student has the right to go to the seedy bar.
Lynn Fredricks
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rgalex

#529
August 16, 2018, 12:35:28 PM
Quote from: Pyromancer;1053135Martial Arts Class
Student: "Master, how do I defend myself when I am in a seedy bar, and when I leave, a suspicious man follow me and..."
Master: "Don't go to a seedy bar in the first place."

The Master is wrong.  According to the "logic" of the day we need to teach men to not be suspicious and not follow people out of bars.

Haffrung

#530
August 16, 2018, 01:30:19 PM
Quote from: Brad;1053108If you've never gotten into a scuffle as a kid, you probably never actually had any friends, much less went outside.

That's probably true for guys over 40 or 45. But from what I see at my kids' schools, school-yard fights - and I mean real fights, not just shoving on the playground - are extremely rare these days. When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, two weeks didn't go by when a couple boys weren't rolling around the school yard punching one another in the face. That might happen once a year now.
 

S'mon

#531
August 16, 2018, 03:17:42 PM
Quote from: Haffrung;1053147That's probably true for guys over 40 or 45. But from what I see at my kids' schools, school-yard fights - and I mean real fights, not just shoving on the playground - are extremely rare these days. When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, two weeks didn't go by when a couple boys weren't rolling around the school yard punching one another in the face. That might happen once a year now.

I do worry a bit about this - the schoolteachers often don't allow even basic roughhousing, and monitor strictly for the playground fights we all had as kids in the '80s. I don't think it's at all good for socialisation for boys. It means their reactions are often inappropriate and they don't understand (de)escalation rituals. It can lead to real, extreme, deadly violence.

Haffrung

#532
August 16, 2018, 03:24:40 PM
Quote from: S'mon;1053155I do worry a bit about this - the schoolteachers often don't allow even basic roughhousing, and monitor strictly for the playground fights we all had as kids in the '80s. I don't think it's at all good for socialisation for boys. It means their reactions are often inappropriate and they don't understand (de)escalation rituals. It can lead to real, extreme, deadly violence.

Agreed. There's basically zero tolerance for any rough play on the school ground. A quarter of the boys are on behaviour-modifying drugs. Elementary (and increasingly junior high) school teachers are all women, and very mild-natured women at that. And as you say, boys don't learn escalation, and where to draw the line. I've seen some reports that while low-level violence has decreased dramatically among young boys, lethal violence has not decreased among teens. Which suggests an angry 16-year-old's first explosion of violence will often have none of the restraint or escalation you mention. They don't know that when you're an almost fully-grown man, one blow or strike can kill someone.
 

Warboss Squee

#533
August 16, 2018, 03:58:32 PM
Quote from: rgalex;1053141The Master is wrong.  According to the "logic" of the day we need to teach men to not be suspicious and not follow people out of bars.

Only if it's a woman asking the question.

jhkim

#534
August 16, 2018, 07:00:15 PM Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 07:11:27 PM by jhkim
Quote from: S'mon;1053155I do worry a bit about this - the schoolteachers often don't allow even basic roughhousing, and monitor strictly for the playground fights we all had as kids in the '80s. I don't think it's at all good for socialisation for boys. It means their reactions are often inappropriate and they don't understand (de)escalation rituals. It can lead to real, extreme, deadly violence.
Quote from: Haffrung;1053158Agreed. There's basically zero tolerance for any rough play on the school ground. A quarter of the boys are on behaviour-modifying drugs. Elementary (and increasingly junior high) school teachers are all women, and very mild-natured women at that. And as you say, boys don't learn escalation, and where to draw the line. I've seen some reports that while low-level violence has decreased dramatically among young boys, lethal violence has not decreased among teens. Which suggests an angry 16-year-old's first explosion of violence will often have none of the restraint or escalation you mention. They don't know that when you're an almost fully-grown man, one blow or strike can kill someone.
I'd want some kind of objective metric that shows this problem. In general, lethal violence in the U.S. has been decreasing since it's peak around 1990 - and that goes for both teens and adults.

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Source: https://www.childtrends.org/indicators/teen-homicide-suicide-and-firearm-deaths

So I'm not convinced that there is a growing problem of deadly violence among male teens.

That said, I have no problem with getting more men to teach elementary school. I think it would be great to get men involved there. (I'm trained as a secondary school teacher myself, though currently working in educational tech.) As for the zero tolerance policies - I'm against out-of-school suspension and expulsion for fights, but I'm leery of teachers letting kids get beat up just so boys can be boys.

Opaopajr

#535
August 16, 2018, 08:59:32 PM Last Edit: August 16, 2018, 09:02:43 PM by Opaopajr
Quote from: Haffrung;1053147That's probably true for guys over 40 or 45. But from what I see at my kids' schools, school-yard fights - and I mean real fights, not just shoving on the playground - are extremely rare these days. When I was a kid in the 70s and 80s, two weeks didn't go by when a couple boys weren't rolling around the school yard punching one another in the face. That might happen once a year now.

That was due to peak lead gradually washing out of the environment after banned leaded gasoline and the final outpacing of refined petroleum & gas vs. coal. :)

It took 150 years for the California Gold Rush consequences to finally peak its annual rising turbidity of the SF Bay estuary waters. It takes time for these pollutants to cycle through the ecology and reseek equilibrium.

(Yes, that means you should all do a liver cleanse and high colonic. :p )
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Omega

#536
August 16, 2018, 11:38:07 PM
Quote from: rgalex;1053141The Master is wrong.  According to the "logic" of the day we need to teach men to not be suspicious and not follow people out of bars.

Men AND women. My dad has had a few gals follow him out of a bar and try to get in his car.

Spinachcat

#537
August 17, 2018, 02:34:59 AM
Quote from: Opaopajr;1053099Well, if the assaulter was a Namco fighter, that would explain the broken window, as he likely already entered a preset combo before Hambly shifted to the side plane... :p

Now that you have won the internet, what are your plans for it?


Quote from: Omega;1053192My dad has had a few gals follow him out of a bar and try to get in his car.

Isn't that the whole point of going to a bar???

Omega

#538
August 17, 2018, 08:31:30 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;1053201Isn't that the whole point of going to a bar???

For alot of people apparently. No? And especially not when they are trying to force themselves on you and didnt take multiple "NO!"s for an answer. In one case he just drove to the police station... :D

And one of the local gaming groups sometimes drops in at a bar when they take a break from a session since its got a sizable restaurant too. And a bowling alley. Which seems fairly common? Local costuming group used to meet there monthly at the bowling section.

Spinachcat

#539
August 18, 2018, 02:56:25 AM
Quote from: Omega;1053220In one case he just drove to the police station... :D

"Officer, this woman is trying to fuck me!" was probably the most memorable line that precinct ever had in a report!

But joking aside, sloppy drunks are creepy and rarely hot enough to be worth the drama.
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