and now us expats from tBP outnumber everyone else.  What does that mean for the board?

Quote from: Stumpydaveand now us expats from tBP outnumber everyone else.  What does that mean for the board?

I don't know what it means for others but for *me*, it means RPG.net has lost its magic and its primary mission.

I started off Elsewhere.  I then went to EN World.  From there I found Nutkinland (the EZBoard version - with the Black Lodge and everything!).  I signed up at RPGnet at some time during that, as well as the WOTC boards.  But I've got to say the previous incarnation as it's that which brought me here.

Via RPG.net, where I still post and feel is my RPG home on the web.  Never had any problems.

Came here, because one can never have enough places to talk RPGs.  Post VERY infrequently on ENworld, though I read lots on there, and ask for D&D specific help, as they have some real knowledgeable posters there abotu D&D.  Usually I'll discuss on both the .net and ENW, and see where the best advice lies.

Glad to recognize many who I've know at the .net and miss (or, still talk to, in the case of the TurtleLevi - though our tastes of gaming don't seem to lie in the same direction).

I was directed here from RPGNet about the time JimBobOz got banned for deliberately and persistently not breaking the rules.

RPGNet's moderators regularly claim their site has 34 times more users than the population of the known universe, which is one reason I've started posting more over here than there. Posting at RPGNet is like shouting in the middle of a riot - everyone else is doing it and unless you say something particularly interesting, or have a number of friends who'll post response and keep the thread in view, your posts get lost in the crowd. Especially as the search function is turned off and the replacement is hopeless.

Quote from: O'BorgPosting at RPGNet is like shouting in the middle of a riot - everyone else is doing it and unless you say something particularly interesting, or have a number of friends who'll post response and keep the thread in view, your posts get lost in the crowd.

I don't think it has anything to do with being interesting at all. It's more about reaffirming what people are already saying. Barring that, the only way to get a reaction over there is probably to be offensive or to troll.

A lot of people who praise games over there don't actually play them. Some haven't even read the games they are praising.

Quote from: Consonant DudeI don't think it has anything to do with being interesting at all. It's more about reaffirming what people are already saying. Barring that, the only way to get a reaction over there is probably to be offensive or to troll.

A lot of people who praise games over there don't actually play them. Some haven't even read the games they are praising.

Patently ridiculous.  I'm far from a "popular" or "clique" poster, yet I carry on conversations with people all the time.

I don't play Exalted (though I recently got a copy in a online sale, as I had Amazon bucks, couldn't think of anything else I desperately wanted, and figured "May as well see what all the fuss is about"), and I loathe most indy rules-lite games.  Yet I never lack topics to discuss in RP Open.

If you want to have discussions and interactions with people you can.  If you want to be a jackass, you can get banned.  I've never felt "excluded" or ridiculed because I like Hunter and D&D, two of the most flameworthy topics (and there is a LARGE proportion of Rules Cyclopedia fans there - I think everyone who likes that era of D&D must all be contained there...).

And I've never held back on opinions and arguements.  I just am able to argue without breaking the "don't be a dick" rule.

Quote from: HackmastergeneralPatently ridiculous.  I'm far from a "popular" or "clique" poster, yet I carry on conversations with people all the time.

I don't play Exalted (though I recently got a copy in a online sale, as I had Amazon bucks, couldn't think of anything else I desperately wanted, and figured "May as well see what all the fuss is about"), and I loathe most indy rules-lite games.  Yet I never lack topics to discuss in RP Open.

If you want to have discussions and interactions with people you can.  If you want to be a jackass, you can get banned.  I've never felt "excluded" or ridiculed because I like Hunter and D&D, two of the most flameworthy topics (and there is a LARGE proportion of Rules Cyclopedia fans there - I think everyone who likes that era of D&D must all be contained there...).

And I've never held back on opinions and arguements.  I just am able to argue without breaking the "don't be a dick" rule.

Bravo. But you're just one person and for the many people who feel like you, there are just as many who don't.

When it gets to the point where people feel the need to pretend they like games they have never read just to get with the in-crowd, there is definitly a problem.

Quote from: Consonant DudeI came from RPG.net.

Haven't had any problems there personally (no warnings, no admonitions, no bans) but I felt there were significant moves by other posters, voluntary and involuntary.

I'm also very unsatisfied by one moderator in particular, even if he hasn't taken any action against me.

Finally, I feel the Big Purple didn't cover the whole spectrum of games anymore. Ironically, soon after registering here, I discovered this website also has different but equally annoying biases toward certain games.

I'm basically fucked

Well, one of the differences is that here no one will exert their authority to try to bully people into accepting certain positions about certain games.  So there are biases, but no one will punish you for having the opposite bias.

You can also start any thread you like, you know, and I hope you will do so. Often. We need new threads.

RPGPundit

Quote from: O'BorgI was directed here from RPGNet about the time JimBobOz got banned for deliberately and persistently not breaking the rules.

RPGNet's moderators regularly claim their site has 34 times more users than the population of the known universe, which is one reason I've started posting more over here than there. Posting at RPGNet is like shouting in the middle of a riot - everyone else is doing it and unless you say something particularly interesting, or have a number of friends who'll post response and keep the thread in view, your posts get lost in the crowd. Especially as the search function is turned off and the replacement is hopeless.

Yes, not to mention that said claims are largely an illusion. They're definitely big, alright, but they hide just what percentage of their "registered" posters are actually active posters.  I mean, if you registered there and made one post 4 years ago and then never went back, you're counted among the "thirty-five thousand people who post" at RPG.net.

35k my ass.

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditYes, not to mention that said claims are largely an illusion. They're definitely big, alright, but they hide just what percentage of their "registered" posters are actually active posters.  I mean, if you registered there and made one post 4 years ago and then never went back, you're counted among the "thirty-five thousand people who post" at RPG.net.

35k my ass.

RPGPundit

Oh obviously, in fact I was about to mention that last time one of them came out with their "35 million people on this site why should we take any notice of your opinion?" posts, but they locked the thread before anything could be said.
Not that it would have made any difference, because with 35 billion users, why should they take notice of one poster questioning the accuracy of their 35 trillion users claim?

Quote from: Consonant DudeBravo. But you're just one person and for the many people who feel like you, there are just as many who don't.

When it gets to the point where people feel the need to pretend they like games they have never read just to get with the in-crowd, there is definitly a problem.

You can't help how people "feel".  People "feel" all kinds of things that aren't representitive of the reality.

I've never had any problems discussing or finding good discussion on, D&D or any of my other favorite games.  

The biggest problem I have isn't with D&D haters, its with Rules Cyclopedia grognards who are constantly trumpeting the superiority of RC over 3.X, and any discussion of the latter, they try to swing to the former.

Quote from: RPGPunditWell, one of the differences is that here no one will exert their authority to try to bully people into accepting certain positions about certain games.  So there are biases, but no one will punish you for having the opposite bias.

You can also start any thread you like, you know, and I hope you will do so. Often. We need new threads.

RPGPundit

Point out one instance of RPG.net admin bullying posters into to accept certain postions about games.  Or punishing someone for having an opposite bias than the admin/mods.

You and a few others keep claiming this, but according to popular internet myth and legend, since I'm a massive D&D/3.5/Hunter fan, I should be the one getting bullied the most.  Yet I don't.

Maybe it has more to do with "posting like a jackass" than what game you happen to like.

Quote from: HackmastergeneralYou can't help how people "feel".

I can't help how people "feel". I don't have to suffer them because of that.  

Quote from: HackmastergeneralPeople "feel" all kinds of things that aren't representitive of the reality.

Indeed. That's why I'm not as comfortable on RPG.net as I used to. Too many people talking out of their ass due to pressure of the surroundings. I still go on RPG.net but for the time being, I've cut back on participation and prefer it here.

That doesn't mean there aren't some kickass individuals who like all sorts of games over there. But they're drowned under a pile of groupthink bullshit I'm growing weary of. Now, if you disagree that this phenomenon exists on RPG.net, or if you think it's not as bad as I think it is or heck, if you think it's bad but still worthwhile for you, that's great!

Me, I'm not comfortable on a wesbite where people pretend that a game they have never read is @wesomez!1!.

Consonant

If you're going to let the actions of other people dictate your life to you, man, I don't know.

I enjoyed your posts on the .net.  I mean, do what you will, if it bothers you that much, I guess you've got better things to do.

But people making themselves look like idiots?  I guess thats ONE reason to give up posting at a place.