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Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on August 25, 2006, 05:11:39 PM
The following is the current Constitution for theRPGsite:

1. Registration is free, None of our features will ever be restricted to community supporters, nor do we restrict them on the basis of postcount or reputation. If your messages are funny, informative, or interesting on any level, please post them. If your replies help contribute to our conversations in any fashion, then please post those too. That should be your only incentive.

2.Speak your mind here, without fear! Our administrators and moderators aren't in the business of censoring what other people have to say. Censorship will not occur on this site. If you personally don't like a thread, then don't read it. If someone is being intentionally disruptive without contributing anything, they may be given sanctions ("sanctions" being a swift beating with the Spiked Baseball Bat of Great Justice), but no one will be moderated, censored, banned or otherwise messed with for expressing their positions.

3.That means all posts at theRPGsite represent the viewpoints of the writers under free speech. The RPGsite's hosts strive to provide an entertaining and interactive medium, and are not responsible for the views of individual visitors. All messages express the views of the individual authors, each author accepts final responsibility for what he or she says, etcetera etcetera etcetera.

4. TheRPGsite is meant to be a general, non-commercial forum for anything and everything related to Mainstream tabletop RPGs. This doesn't mean that you can't also talk about other games, electronic games, off-topic posts, or even talk about non-mainstream RPGs. Its just that the overall focus of the site is on mainstream RPG gaming as a hobby (not an "art" or a "lifestyle"), and that this will be the dominant paradigm under which this site operates.

5. This is an RPG site. It's not a pr0n site. It's certainly not an online vomitorium. If an image could get someone fired if they look at it from work, don't post it. Provide a link and clearly mark it as NWS (Not Work Safe). Likewise, if the image is upsetting or disturbing mark it as NMS (Not Mind Safe). When in doubt, presume everyone else works in a monastery and has a very weak stomach.

6.We realize that some gamers lack important social skills, but even if we explained each and every aspect of common sense and acceptable behavior there'd still be at least one rules lawyer either claiming something wasn't covered or trying to cleverly circumvent something that was. So if you want a Rule 0, here it is: use common sense. This is a site where we don't take things too seriously, but we also aren't here to just make a joke of everything. Try to show some respect for the participants of the site, and for the mission statement of the site (to be a forum for the discussion of Mainstream RPG gaming as a hobby). Don't engage in personal attacks, insults, or foolery if you don't also have an actual point to make. Don't piss off the guy with the spiked baseball bat. We want this site to be an open place for free discussion, and not some kind of joke, or some kind of totalitarian police-state. That requires participants in the site to demonstrate that they're capable of acting like intelligent adults who don't need to be policed.

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Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: joewolz on August 26, 2006, 05:53:03 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit

4. TheRPGsite is meant to be a general, non-commercial forum for anything and everything related to Mainstream tabletop RPGs. This doesn't mean that you can't also talk about other games, electronic games, off-topic posts, or even talk about non-mainstream RPGs. Its just that the overall focus of the site is on mainstream RPG gaming as a hobby (not an "art" or a "lifestyle"), and that this will be the dominant paradigm under which this site operates.

Emphasis mine.  Does this mean that no one is allowed to take the tack I've bolded in your post above?  Talking about gaming as a subculture, or an art form, or a ( ::shudder:: ) lifestyle is verboten?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Zalmoxis on August 26, 2006, 06:13:33 PM
My hope is that it's just a guideline and not a rule, otherwise this site is already singling out certain types of play as unacceptable and may drive people away. Not to mention that alternate opinions drive debate... without them, you just have an echo chamber.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: laffingboy on August 26, 2006, 06:40:57 PM
Few rules, few loopholes. Looks good.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on August 26, 2006, 07:18:34 PM
Its a guideline. The idea is that, for example, Forge people shouldn't come on here thinking all of us RPGsite-ists see Indie gaming as equivalent to Jack Kerouac's poetry, which they apparently do.

The statements above are meant to establish the common values of this place. If people post representing alternate opinions, they may be mocked or argued with, but they won't be censored.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Lawbag on August 26, 2006, 08:30:27 PM
certainly the rules leave No margin of error or misinterpretation, as well as being free from any form of Mod-clique.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Yamo on August 26, 2006, 09:47:45 PM
What is a "non-mainstream RPG?"

From reading your blog, I *mostly* feel I know the answer (a highfalutin', "Narrativist" story game) , but I would worry that people unfamiliar with your views would not know where to draw that line.

For example, some might take it to mean an RPG that is simply unpopular or obscure, while still being very firmly-rooted in traditional RPG play paradigms.

Some clarification might be good.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: joewolz on August 27, 2006, 07:38:57 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit
Its a guideline. The idea is that, for example, Forge people shouldn't come on here thinking all of us RPGsite-ists see Indie gaming as equivalent to Jack Kerouac's poetry, which they apparently do.


Glad to know it's a guideline.  The Kerouac line made me chuckle out loud.  IMHO the guideline is a good one, everyone should be welcome to talk about how they view our shared hobby.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on August 28, 2006, 12:39:45 AM
The Kerouac line wasn't just something I made up. One of the Forge-ites posted this very stupid blog entry where he claimed that Ron Edwards and Co. were the new version of the Beat Movement and how he was all psyched that they were on the "cutting edge" (of what, I have no fucking idea). Talk about a lack of perspective.

Anyways, as to the question of what's mainstream, the answer is common sense. Any game that runs around making a big show of how its "not mainstream" (including anything from the Forge, and White-wolf style "storyteller" games) probably aren't mainstream. I mean shit, let's take them at their word. They claim that they aren't for the "masses", that's fine, I want fuck all to do with them.

Note that this doesn't mean you can't discuss these games on here; nothing is verboten in this board.  Just that the idea is not to have 50% of the threads on the main forum be about Exalted or Nobilis or My Life With Master; instead of, you know, games that people in the real world actually play.
We won't be having versions of the "RPG.net Darling" or the flavour of the month over here.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Sojourner Judas on August 28, 2006, 12:51:40 AM
White Wolf's very much "for the masses." Second largest RPG publisher, sold in Waldenbooks... :p
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on August 28, 2006, 04:44:51 AM
Quote from: Sojourner Judas
White Wolf's very much "for the masses." Second largest RPG publisher, sold in Waldenbooks... :p


Since they themselves make claims not to be, I am more than happy to kick them to the curb, even though they don't actually have anything "innovative" about their design that makes them in any way different from traditional rpgs (other than the fact that railroading and bad GMing are built into the presumptions of how to run the game, and bizzarely seen as not just a good thing, but as producing "art").

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Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Gabriel on August 31, 2006, 11:48:30 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit
We won't be having versions of the "RPG.net Darling" or the flavour of the month over here.


Oh, I think that's inescapable.  The only way to avoid it is to narrow the site's focus to be something like Dragonsfoot.  No matter what, people are going to be psyched about some new game or other, and a mob mentality will develop.

My hope is that if a group of posters creates a situation where one game dominates the entire forum (like what happened on RPGnet with Exalted), that something will be done to merge the threads and restore a semblance of balance.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on August 31, 2006, 03:28:26 PM
Quote from: Gabriel
Oh, I think that's inescapable.  The only way to avoid it is to narrow the site's focus to be something like Dragonsfoot.  No matter what, people are going to be psyched about some new game or other, and a mob mentality will develop.

My hope is that if a group of posters creates a situation where one game dominates the entire forum (like what happened on RPGnet with Exalted), that something will be done to merge the threads and restore a semblance of balance.


Gabriel,

That's what I really meant. Obviously, people will get psyched about what's new and cool in the moment. But its one thing if people are excited about a game and quite another if a certain clique of posters run around declaring "game x is cool" and then swamping the boards with talk of nothing but that game to dominate the entire conversation.

And quite another thing above that if this sort of mentality is specifically ENCOURAGED by the moderation.

We won't be doing any of that here.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: jrients on September 01, 2006, 09:24:29 AM
I would encourage anyone that sees too many threads about a single game to start at least one thread about another system before they ask for admin help (such as requesting merging threads).  If duplicative threads exist I have no problem with merging them, but I'd much rather see new stuff than hide old content.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on September 01, 2006, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: jrients
I would encourage anyone that sees too many threads about a single game to start at least one thread about another system before they ask for admin help (such as requesting merging threads).  If duplicative threads exist I have no problem with merging them, but I'd much rather see new stuff than hide old content.


Very good point, Jrients.  We'd really only "Merge threads" if it seemed like the number of threads on a given game were part of some concerted effort to over-run the board or something, anyways. I think otherwise a statement of principles and the fact that we the admins aren't going to be playing favourites is more than enough to ensure a balance.

Anyways, I'm also considering a few other options as far as this sort of thing is concerned... more on that later.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: SunBoy on November 30, 2006, 06:06:05 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit
6.We realize that some gamers lack important social skills


Mate, I now this is old, but this is the first time I read it, and...
:tears:
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Hackmastergeneral on January 05, 2007, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit
Since they themselves make claims not to be, I am more than happy to kick them to the curb, even though they don't actually have anything "innovative" about their design that makes them in any way different from traditional rpgs (other than the fact that railroading and bad GMing are built into the presumptions of how to run the game, and bizzarely seen as not just a good thing, but as producing "art").

RPGPundit


See, but thats the big problem I have with how its worded, and how you're going to be interpreting it.

You have a MASSIVE bias against White Wolf.  Like, more massive than anything any mod or admin on RPG.net had against D&D (which is quite a load of crap).  You're saying its "not mainstream" when its demonstratably IS.  Could you please pull some quote in a book, or a website, where White Wolf the corporate entity (and not some yob who doesn't work for them any more) claims their games are "not for the masses, and not mainstream"?

Your personal feelings on the game should mean nothing.  Your personal feelings about ANY game, as a moderator and admin, should mean nothing.

If ANY game is over-dominating, having too much duplication of thread topic and overlapping discussion, then thats a good time for merging.

I mean, if there are 20 legitemite threads on Exalted, all talking about different aspects of the game and different splats and the like, just because you don't like the game, why should it be singled out for excommunication?  Yet, from your posts, if there are 20 threads talking about the PHB2, those DON'T get merged/moderated?

"Mainstream" or not, you should be happy people are coming here to DISCUSS.  If you're not happy with a tone you percieve as "flooding" the boards, then thats one thing.  Shutting down discussion just because you have a massive hate-on for a certain game company is quite another.

That is, my friend, far more dictatorial than anything I've seen on RPG.net.  I mean, say what you will, but when it comes to GAMES, they don't actively shut down discussion of a particular game (beyond FATAL and RaHoWa, which I think we can both agree mostly deserve it) becasue they don't like it.  For all the "perceived" (and thats all it is) bias against D&D, mods don't shut down threads about it, or merge threads about it because its taking away precious front page space from the "darlings".
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Spike on January 05, 2007, 10:06:27 PM
Hack, back down a bit, mate. Nobody has been closing, locking or really even merging threads at all as far as I've seen.

The pundit has been true to his word, not much moderation going on...
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Aos on January 05, 2007, 10:11:56 PM
The only thing better than getting pissed baout a post on a message board is getting pissed about an old and forgotten post on a message board.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Hackmastergeneral on January 06, 2007, 06:57:28 AM
Quote from: Aos
The only thing better than getting pissed baout a post on a message board is getting pissed about an old and forgotten post on a message board.

Who's pissed?  I just find it interesting.  When you join a message board, one of the things you do is check out how the board is going to be run.  Especially where Pundit has made such noise about this being the "Anti RPG.net", I was even more interested to see his ideas and philosophies on how this would be run.  Imagine my suprise when I come across a post basically saying he'll shut down discussion of games he doesn't like.

If thats not the reality, then thats cool.  But thats not how he presents its going to be in the stickied thread (hardly forgotten, as it stays at the top of the forum.  Its not like I dug through twenty back pages to find something to get upset about) that is basically the manifesto/mission statement of the board, which is where all new posters should go at first.

Inevitably, new posters are going to rehash old arguements about stuff like this, as they are new to the board.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Aos on January 06, 2007, 11:52:33 AM
Forgive me, I was uaware of your reightousness.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Spike on January 06, 2007, 11:59:34 AM
I, for one, have always been far more interested in what people actually do, over what they suggest they will do.  It is a far greater indicator of where they stand, if you will.

For example: in this thread the Pundit both claimed a laize faire (damn the french for not knowing how to spell...) attitude AND an anti-swine game thread mentality. This was a matter of self contradiction, and it remained to be seen which attitude would prevail.

Obviously, after some three months or so, the former has proven the true, as we have a number of respected posters who vehemently disagree with the Pundit, and the ONLY mod action taken was so low key that the discussion of it took more notice before hand than the actual act itself.

I have yet to see a merged or buried thread.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Consonant Dude on January 06, 2007, 12:36:29 PM
Quote from: Spike
For example: in this thread the Pundit both claimed a laize faire (damn the french for not knowing how to spell...)


It's "laissez-faire".
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: James McMurray on January 06, 2007, 07:44:39 PM
Quote from: Consonant Dude
It's "laissez-faire".


Only because the French don't know how to spell.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on January 07, 2007, 12:51:24 AM
I haven't merged any thread, nor have I closed any thread as a way to end discussion.

Nor was that the point of my "there won't be 50 pages of exalted" statement.  You'll note that the rest of the context of the statement involved saying that unlike other sites, there won't be specific "darling games" that get special treatment by the Admins here.  Its more a statement about what I and the other admins won't do than any kind of proactive statement of what we will do.

You can post threads about any game here; the only way they would be shut down is if someone came in and positively flooded the site with threads as a way to disturb the functioning of the site with intentional maliciousness.  Aside from a highly unusual scenario like that, I couldn't see myself shutting any threads down.  Instead, what you won't see here is threads, games, or people being given special protections and encouragement the way you do on other sites, where there is tacit or open manipulation of the site.

so please, if you want to post away about WW games, if that's your thing; or about Hackmaster for that matter.  

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Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Hackmastergeneral on January 07, 2007, 11:15:33 AM
Quote from: Spike
I, for one, have always been far more interested in what people actually do, over what they suggest they will do.  It is a far greater indicator of where they stand, if you will.

For example: in this thread the Pundit both claimed a laize faire (damn the french for not knowing how to spell...) attitude AND an anti-swine game thread mentality. This was a matter of self contradiction, and it remained to be seen which attitude would prevail.

Obviously, after some three months or so, the former has proven the true, as we have a number of respected posters who vehemently disagree with the Pundit, and the ONLY mod action taken was so low key that the discussion of it took more notice before hand than the actual act itself.

I have yet to see a merged or buried thread.


And that gets more respect from me than anything else as well.

I haven't been here for three months, and a thread like this is how I judge what a board will be like, and if I will continue to bother posting.

Its not a great manifesto, from that perspective, as prospective posters may feel put off by the tone.  Again, you only get one chance at a first impression.

I don't feel, then, it represents the reality of the board.  It gives the impression discussion will be stifled if its not from one of Pundit's "darlings" (and really, thats what it amounts to).  Thats not the case, or at least people claim it isn't.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Hackmastergeneral on January 07, 2007, 11:20:29 AM
Quote from: RPGPundit

Nor was that the point of my "there won't be 50 pages of exalted" statement.  You'll note that the rest of the context of the statement involved saying that unlike other sites, there won't be specific "darling games" that get special treatment by the Admins here.  Its more a statement about what I and the other admins won't do than any kind of proactive statement of what we will do.


Point out one instance of this actually being the case on RPG.net, as that is the site that is most often referenced as having a "darling" game.

I give you props for doing what you said you would do, judging by what I've seen the last few days, and what I've read from past discussions.

I don't agree with the vast majority of your opinions, but I respect the job you've been doing as an admin.  I don't think that aspect of the Constitution well represents what you are trying to do here.  I suggest you send it back for a second draft, and eliminate the "darlings" and "mainstream" comments.  As a mission statement, and one prospective posters would read as "this is what the site will be like" it sets the tone that anything non-d20 will be shut down and ignored.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on January 07, 2007, 11:52:25 AM
Quote from: Hackmastergeneral

I don't feel, then, it represents the reality of the board.  It gives the impression discussion will be stifled if its not from one of Pundit's "darlings" (and really, thats what it amounts to).  Thats not the case, or at least people claim it isn't.



How the hell, other than by someone with vast personal issues about me, does "there will be no darlings on theRPGsite" get translated into "I will kill all writing that isn't from my personal Darlings"?

I mean fuck, man, you'd best be getting to the chiropractor what with that chip on your shoulder being the size of a metric ton.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on January 07, 2007, 11:59:21 AM
Quote from: Hackmastergeneral
Point out one instance of this actually being the case on RPG.net, as that is the site that is most often referenced as having a "darling" game.

I give you props for doing what you said you would do, judging by what I've seen the last few days, and what I've read from past discussions.

I don't agree with the vast majority of your opinions, but I respect the job you've been doing as an admin.  I don't think that aspect of the Constitution well represents what you are trying to do here.  I suggest you send it back for a second draft, and eliminate the "darlings" and "mainstream" comments.  As a mission statement, and one prospective posters would read as "this is what the site will be like" it sets the tone that anything non-d20 will be shut down and ignored.



Really? Please tell me, which of the 6 points of the original constitution actually say anything that looks even vaguely similar to "anything non-d20 will be shut down and ignored"?
Would that be "speak your mind here without fear"?
Or perhaps "this doesn't mean that you can't talk about other games, electronic games off-topic posts, or even talk about non-mainstream RPGs"?

Or perhaps you're talking about what I said later, that wasn't in the constitution itself (which would make it kind of irrelevant anyways, but what the heck, let's see); stuff like "Note that this doesn't mean you can't discuss these games on here; nothing is verboten in this board".

Ahhh, perhaps there's the problem! Not speaking German, perhaps you didn't understand what the word "verboten" means, and mistook it for a wierd bavarian word meaning "I WILL BAN WHATEVAR ISNT TEH D20!!!1!1!!"?
Could that be it?

Please, show me exactly what specific part of the constitution or later discussion I should "send back for a second draft"? Or, you know, shut the fuck up. The options are wide open.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Settembrini on January 07, 2007, 03:12:26 PM
Hey Hackmaster, let me translate for you:


1) Pundit hates RPG.Net darlings, Swine Games, Forge Games.

2) Pundit loves freedom of speech.

3) There is more love than hate in him

It´s all about priorities.

I suggest you get yourself some Voltaire to read, to understand how a person can hate somebodies opinion and would still be giving his life in order to defend mentioned person´s right to utter said opinion.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Dr Rotwang! on January 08, 2007, 12:50:26 PM
I still don't know what the "Swine" are.  

In this context I mean.  C'mon, I know about pigs.

Well, maybe not zoologically.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Mcrow on January 08, 2007, 01:01:00 PM
ok, I don't know what has rubbed Hack the wrong way, because  I have never seen a thread locked or non-spam user banned around here for anything. People are free to talk about whatever games they like here. You might catch some hell for your views on a game, cuz people here have the right to voice their opinions.

Swine (my definition): Any game or company that is promoted as being inherently better than traditional games based mostly on being different from traditional games. The companies &/or designers are also pompuos and elitist.

Some Forge games fit this catagorey and some people argue that White Wolf also fits here.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: joewolz on January 08, 2007, 02:25:51 PM
Rotwang, the Swine are people who hold ideals in gaming (arguably in other things as well) that the RPGPundit doesn't like.

It really doesn't have a concrete definition, it's a hazy "enemy."  What's cool is even though it's his board, his opinions are held by the rest of the community to be just as valid as...mine.

Vive l'RPGSite!
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Dr Rotwang! on January 08, 2007, 09:06:17 PM
Ah -- okay.

(http://www.digitaldutch.com/arles/tutorials/thumbnail_tags/galleries/thumbnail_tags_with_size/images/Hammock.jpg)
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Hackmastergeneral on January 08, 2007, 09:14:58 PM
Nice image from the good doctor.  Puts me in a nicer mindset just looking at it.

Man, I could go for some of that sweet hammock action right now, but while Halifax has much warmer weather this winter than normal, its not warm enough for THAT.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Strolen on April 07, 2010, 08:23:00 PM
Sorry to unbury this thread but I had a blast reading it and the rules...oops, guidelines...are great and had a blast reading the discussion about them.

Quote
Likewise, if the image is upsetting or disturbing mark it as NMS (Not Mind Safe).


LOL! Never heard that one before. And Swine was a new one too that I may have to pick up.

Great set of guidelines though, really. Those that don't/can't follow them on accident, well, I hope life treats them OK but I don't have much hope.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Benoist on April 07, 2010, 10:12:00 PM
Quote from: Strolen;372199
Sorry to unbury this thread but I had a blast reading it and the rules...oops, guidelines...are great and had a blast reading the discussion about them.

Welcome, dude. :)
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Benoist on April 07, 2010, 10:25:33 PM
Quote from: RPGPundit;61773
Nor was that the point of my "there won't be 50 pages of exalted" statement.  You'll note that the rest of the context of the statement involved saying that unlike other sites, there won't be specific "darling games" that get special treatment by the Admins here. Its more a statement about what I and the other admins won't do than any kind of proactive statement of what we will do.

Did this guideline change? Amber? Gnomemurdered?
Or am I not understanding the context, here?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: IMLegend on April 08, 2010, 09:33:05 AM
Silly Benoist. You've been here long enought to know the answer to that one.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: J Arcane on April 08, 2010, 12:04:57 PM
Quote from: Benoist;372220
Did this guideline change? Amber? Gnomemurdered?
Or am I not understanding the context, here?


I'd watch where you point that thing, OSR-boy.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Benoist on April 08, 2010, 12:14:53 PM
Quote from: J Arcane;372318
I'd watch where you point that thing, OSR-boy.

I don't even know if that thing's fucking loaded, to tell you the truth. LOL :D
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on April 13, 2010, 04:40:50 PM
Quote from: Benoist;372220
Did this guideline change? Amber? Gnomemurdered?
Or am I not understanding the context, here?


The context of the statement was in reference to how on RPG.net, certain games are the "Darlings" wherein discussion of those games get a more preferential treatment by the mods than of other games. ie., you can slag D&D/D20/Palladium to your heart's content, while criticizing Exalted is likely to get you negative attention from the mods.

Amber has had its own special forum since forever, and now Gnomemurdered has one too; but this doesn't mean that people have to treat these games differently from others.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Libertad on July 21, 2012, 05:38:09 PM
New poster here.

What happens when a user gets "sanctioned?"  Is it like a red card or warning?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Benoist on July 21, 2012, 07:36:22 PM
"Sanction" usually means "permanently banned". When you are doing something that is blatantly against the RPG Site's Constitution, you get warned formally, i.e. you get told explicitly that if you keep with whatever shit you're doing you're going to get the axe and should knock it off once and for all. If you persist, you're banned. There are no temporary bans and no half-measures on the RPG Site. Either you're in, or you're out. When you're out, you're out for good.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Marleycat on July 22, 2012, 01:59:05 PM
Yeah, so when Pundit steps in and chides me for being offtopic, like I sometimes do. I listen and drop it FAST.

Welcome to RPGsite Libertad if I didn't mention it before. :)
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: furious about elfgames on January 27, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
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2.Speak your mind here, without fear! Our administrators and moderators aren't in the business of censoring what other people have to say. Censorship will not occur on this site. If you personally don't like a thread, then don't read it. If someone is being intentionally disruptive without contributing anything, they may be given sanctions ("sanctions" being a swift beating with the Spiked Baseball Bat of Great Justice), but no one will be moderated, censored, banned or otherwise messed with for expressing their positions.

Oh, that's a good policy, and mighty big of th

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Wow.  I wasn't trying to hide who I was from the site admins or I would have just used another throwaway email.  Do you routinely publicize user identity information?  That's kind of a shit policy.  How are you different from rpg.net again?  I was actually looking for a site that allowed more sparring because rpgnet is boring as fuck but if you just doxx people you disagree with then you are censoring every bit as much as they are.

Yeah, yeah. We always get you lot coming here to stir things up for giggles and 'grog-mining'.

What separates you from the others so far is that you're using a different user-name.

Most of them are still here posting now and then, Plague of Hats, Libertad, Gizmoduck, a few others.

It always tickles me that people who spend their time looking for quotes to post at Grognards.txt are always so snippy when their anonymity is blown.

Don't want grief from a board you routinely diss?

Then don't sign up to a board you routinely diss and try to hide your identity.

I'm sure you are far from the only one - you were just stupid enough not to cover your tracks very well.

Well, Pundit, your mod One Horse Town seems to have gone rogue.  Either that or you're an old fraud and your word is worth something between jack and shit.  Which is it?  Are you a big liar, or is One Horse Town just making you look like one?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 27, 2014, 07:38:28 PM
LoL.

"Hi guys I'm posting in a thread which routinely tries to headhunt grognards and ridicule them. How dare you drop my nick in here after I joined with a pretentious nickname, I demand justice."
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: furious about elfgames on January 27, 2014, 07:49:30 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;727248
LoL.

"Hi guys I'm posting in a thread which routinely tries to headhunt grognards and ridicule them. How dare you drop my nick in here after I joined with a pretentious nickname, I demand justice."


Damn, how much of a pussy do you have to be to need proxies to cover for you on your own site?  That's fucking pathetic, Pundit.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: One Horse Town on January 27, 2014, 07:49:41 PM
I have no problem with standing down if i have overstepped the mark in any way.

Shit, if someone whose opinion i actually respected said, "mate, i think you suck and should give it a rest", i'd do it even if i haven't over-stepped the mark.

No skin off my proverbial.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 27, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: furious about elfgames;727256
Damn, how much of a pussy do you have to be to need proxies to cover for you on your own site?  That's fucking pathetic, Pundit.

We're both getting just enough amounts of pussy, thank you very much.

Nobody cares what you consider pathetic or don't, because come the next winter wind, when the thread you came to weep in and "educate us" disappears, so will you, returning to your paid friends. You're here to try and stir shit, and I only respond to you because I know I'm quite witty, so I can take you for a few rides and cheap laughs, at least for my own amusement.

Feel free to prove me wrong, though I'm willing to bet dollars to walnuts that you'll be gone before the week's over. But hey - thanks for reminding me of a comic I had long forgotten about.

Edit: Also, from that quote, I'm surprised about Libertad. I know he was oddly silent about educating us on the matters of how to combat sexism in gaming, but I didn't take him for a...goon.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: furious about elfgames on January 27, 2014, 08:55:21 PM
Quote from: Rincewind1;727267


I wasn't talking to you, son.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Rincewind1 on January 27, 2014, 09:00:29 PM
Quote from: furious about elfgames;727293
I wasn't talking to you, son.

For such a wanker, you sure seem to have a limp-wrist. Go into sewers, grab 1,6k gps worth of spare change and come back when you level up.

Seriously, the "son" comeback? Where are we, comedy kindergarten? Germany?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on January 27, 2014, 09:43:21 PM
Posting someone's real name if they haven't publicly used it here or in other forums should not be done here. Posting someone's full email if they haven't done so should not be done here either.

Posting someone's username from another forum, or real name if its one they publicly use on another forum, is completely allowed, and appropriate if its clear the person is not using said name here specifically for nefarious purposes (be it disruption, stalking, sockpuppeting or general trolling).

From what I understand, you used a different name from the standard username you use on another notable forum (not really an RPG forum but a forum that obsesses about RPGs in a highly negative way), specifically so that you could go unidentified, in a way a few other Grog.txt goons have done so, to generate outrage that can then be posted on that thread to "prove" how awful gamers are.

Please dude, you weren't expressing your position, you were conducting covert sabotage, and you're pissed that you were stupid enough to get found out.

Anyways, you will find that we are not "messing" with your ability to post what you want here so long as it follows our standard very lax rules.  You are as welcome to write whatever you wish here (within the broad limits of on-topic, non-illegal, non-stalking, non-derailing, etc) to your heart's content now that your identity (and agenda) is known by all as you were before that (unfortunate, for you) event.
I will ask though that you if you want to keep discussing the perceived unfairness of this, you use a different thread than this one from here on it. You can start a complaint thread here on the help forum if you want.  But I'd rather we not get another 20 pages of your whining on this stickied thread.

RPGPundit
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: TristramEvans on January 30, 2014, 11:35:14 PM
Quote from: furious about elfgames;727240
Oh, that's a good policy, and mighty big of th

Well, Pundit, your mod One Horse Town seems to have gone rogue.  Either that or you're an old fraud and your word is worth something between jack and shit.  Which is it?  Are you a big liar, or is One Horse Town just making you look like one?

"Being messed with" means someone abusing thier powers as mod. A mod exercising free speech the same as any other poster here is not hipocrisy, its the point of the damn forum. You can say any stupid thing you like, and everyone else if free to call you stupid for saying it. You didnt get banned here for being an obvious troll, and nobody thinks you're clever for being a pity troll either.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Voros on February 15, 2017, 06:00:18 PM
Thread bumping for a clarification:

Are threats to assault and kill other posters kosher here under freedom of speech?
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: RPGPundit on February 15, 2017, 07:48:05 PM
Quote from: Voros;945886
Thread bumping for a clarification:

Are threats to assault and kill other posters kosher here under freedom of speech?

Generally, no.
Title: theRPGsite new Constitution
Post by: Voros on February 16, 2017, 02:26:52 AM
Cool thanks.