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Upon the advisement of the moderation, I am here reposting my report of Serious Paul's post in the thread about the #rpgnet channel. (http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showpost.php?p=122435&postcount=9)

QuoteCan we just ban this useless little shit-stirrer already?  He doesn't  even give a shit about any of us, or the topic of conversation at hand at any given moment, he's just got to stir the pot.  Jumps into any random conversation and frequently starts attacking both sides, which ever  will give him the best results.

This is just a perfect example of his trolling.  He has never once, to my knowledge, logged on to the #rpgnet channel once in the half dozen years I've been chatting there, he knows nothing about the channel, the situation, or any of the people involved, has no stake in the conversation whatsoever, yet he has to try and stir the shit as much as he can anyway.

You wanna ban someone for being disruptive, well here you go.  Between  this, his Animalball spamming, the pathetic attempt at fomenting a board war, and his general tendency to do nothing but fan the flames and drama of any given discussion, he's proven himself time and again to do nothing whatsoever but stir shit.

His actual RPG posts usually amount to token efforts, seemingly culled from a script, which mostly seem to involve shilling Shadowrun and bragging about how many copies of it he owns.  The rest is just more shitstirring, just on RPG topics instead of forum politics.  For the record, I apologize for my part in this, as this attempt at token RPG discussion involvement seems to have primarily inspired by the last time I called him out publicly for his behavior.

Regardless, while I am generally in support of the hands-off nature of the moderation here, I must nevertheless state that this poster seems in every way fitting in the category of disruptive, perhaps more so than any of the posters previously addressed on a moderation level by right if it's insidiousness.

While the post in the #rpgnet thread may seem small, it is part of a pattern of his presence here thatseems to be purely about disrupting as much as humanly possible.  Consider it sort of a "last straw" moment.  If you want a more salient example, look at his and the rest of his Animalball buddies pathetic attempt at fomenting a board war with the recent thread related to their podcast.  Past behaviors indicate a pattern of chasing any potential drama he can exploit and further incite for his own amusement and that of his audience at Animalball, often then disappearing for weeks at a time until some new crest of flamage, and in some cases just scattershot attacking both sides of a given debate, simply to piss everyone off.

As far as I'm concerned, he's a damn troll, and the forum would miss him no more than it misses Dominus Nox.

He's been on my ignore list for a long time. If you think his posts are worthless, why haven't you put him on yours?  As for me, it's the same whether he posts or not.

I too find his posts to be almost entirely devoid of content, and pretty much agree with your initial analysis. There's nothing worse than a failed comedian who thinks he's still funny.

That said I'm with hgjs. It's better just to ignore him. I don't see him as anywhere near the kind of toxic presence that Nox was, and would prefer it the site didn't make a habit of banning every wanker who can string a sentence together.

I'm flattered Jenny, you care! A shame you're so afraid of me you have to try and resort to this sort of draconian measures. Feel free to ban me-I'd laugh my ass off, all the way.

That said this is really just Jenny's problem, and no one else's, so I suspect she'll just be told to cope with her difficulties, and to stop being such a sissy. (Of course I've been wrong before.)

This is going to come as a surprise, but I'm with J Arcane on this one.  Enough is enough, can't you just ban him already?  The only thing he accomplishes on this site is: (1) to post up about games with opinions others don't agree with and (2) highly entertain people who aren't the subject of his jokes.

Quite frankly, I think the RPG site is spreading Paul too thin.  Do us a favor and ban him for whatever reasons you want to create so I don't have to share him with you anymore.

Or I suppose you could take the website away for another four days and hope he forgets about it.  But that didn't work last time.

I don't see any grounds for banning, or even talking about it, really.

Here we go again...

Why don't you just put him on your damn ignore list?


TGA

The reall question we should be asking is: does he weigh more than a duck?

Quote from: James McMurrayThe real question we should be asking is: does he weigh more than a duck?

Unfortunately in my current injured reserve status I weigh the exact same amount as the duck I have. However, were you to have a different duck I'm sure we could get a better estimate!

Now was that an African duck, or a European duck? Just for measurement purposes!

European of course. You know, the 4' tall kind.

Stuff and nonsense. You know what you're going to get with Serious Paul (there's a misnomer if ever there was one!) and the other animalball guys. Lighten up.

I have a question for you though J. From reading your posts recently, do you even like anybody or anything about this place? Apart from your excellent posts on the gaming forum, you're beginning to sound like that other ray of sunshine Kiero. 'Nah, don't like that, don't like him, could have been done better.' As i said before, lighten up mate! There's room for fun on the boards isn't there? (even if what some people find funny ain't) If the fun or irrelevant stuff stays off the actual top 4 sub-forums of the page, what's the damage? Indeed, the odd fun thread on any forum is a break. For example, James McMurrays two threads on the old d&d cartoons. They're pretty irrelevant to the forum they are posted in. But it's supposed to be fun. Haven't seen any complaints about those.

Quote from: One Horse TownSerious Paul (there's a misnomer if ever there was one!)

True story: My name was given to me by a secretive group of Tibetan Monkey Priests who worship an infernal god, who's name can not be muttered.

Also I'm allergic to Goulash.

Quote from: One Horse TownFor example, James McMurrays two threads on the old d&d cartoons. They're pretty irrelevant to the forum they are posted in. But it's supposed to be fun. Haven't seen any complaints about those.

I'm complaining. . .  Complaining that Shadow Demon got no votes and a buncha goobers voted with their animated panty sniffing fetishes. ;)

Quote from: One Horse TownStuff and nonsense. You know what you're going to get with Serious Paul (there's a misnomer if ever there was one!) and the other animalball guys. Lighten up.

I have a question for you though J. From reading your posts recently, do you even like anybody or anything about this place? Apart from your excellent posts on the gaming forum, you're beginning to sound like that other ray of sunshine Kiero. 'Nah, don't like that, don't like him, could have been done better.' As i said before, lighten up mate! There's room for fun on the boards isn't there? (even if what some people find funny ain't) If the fun or irrelevant stuff stays off the actual top 4 sub-forums of the page, what's the damage? Indeed, the odd fun thread on any forum is a break. For example, James McMurrays two threads on the old d&d cartoons. They're pretty irrelevant to the forum they are posted in. But it's supposed to be fun. Haven't seen any complaints about those.

seconded.  if bugs you that bad, IL him.

and, 4' tall ducks?  wtf?  so, there are runequest duck midgets in europe, then?  that would explain a lot.  now off to that panty-vending machine. . . .

I will always be in support of letting people be utter boobs here as long as they don't play one trick ponies with general flamebait (like a certain Nox), and I have an ignore list to shut them up when it gets overwhelming.

Quote from: Serious PaulTrue story: My name was given to me by a secretive group of Tibetan Monkey Priests who worship an infernal god, who's name can not be muttered.

Also I'm allergic to Goulash.

The soup or the beef?

This is where I sit back, munch some virtual popcorn and enjoy the duel between Jenny and Paulette? It is? good.

Entertain me, motherfuckers!









(If Sammy Jackson has never uttered that line in a movie, I will track him down, pay him piles of money and record this line for use as my sonic avatar. Now... how to post a sonic avatar....)

Quote from: SettembriniThe soup or the beef?

The soup I think. Technically I'm not really allergic-I just got food poisoning from it once, when I was like 7. So I haven't had it since.


In the mean time Daki pointed out this relevant story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7zhqaTZAaI). I think it bears serious consideration.

QuoteFrom reading your posts recently, do you even like anybody or anything about this place?

I like plenty of people here.  You happen to be one of them.  I could start a list, I suppose, but that seems a bit silly to me.  

It has been the stated position of the moderation of this website that no one should be banned unless they've proven to be "disruptive" to the site.  Here we have a user who has, most recently, made an actual attempt to start an inter-forum war.  And who's only general strategy in posting to the site is jump in a thread he knows nothing about, and just start sniping at random.  If that doesn't constitute "disruptive", I don't know what the hell does.  

If James McMurray (another poster I like by the way) can get the threat of moderator action or even a forum ban just for disagreeing with one guy too often, well, that would seem to set the bar of moderation much lower than attempts at interforum warfare to me.

"Crap they're not listening to me. I need to make something up, and make it stick quick! Hmm if I let all my crazy hang out that will do it!"

Quote from: J ArcaneAnd who's only general strategy in posting to the site is jump in a thread he knows nothing about, and just start sniping at random.  If that doesn't constitute "disruptive", I don't know what the hell does.  

The only posts I've read by Serious Paul recently are those in the Shadowrun thread.  His opinions there are entirely consistent with earlier posts of his on the subject elsewhere.  All I see is someone expressing their honest opinion.

Quote from: SettembriniThe soup or the beef?

He's full of shit. You can't be allergic to goulash, only certain ingredients in it--- most likely the paprika which is common.

But this is another example of Paul's bullshit.  He's going to totally make up a lie about a perfectly good beef dish just because he wants to be an attention whore and slander the good name of goulash.

At the very least, let's scrutinize his "gaming" posts which are nothing more than thinly veiled attempts to "pimp" for a "game" he likes.  Fuck that.  It's blatant promotionalism.  At least have some substantive gaming posts like I have, Paul.

If we can't ban him from the board completely, can we at least ban him from the off-topic and non-gaming related forums?

Quote from: Animalball BraskyHe's full of shit. You can't be allergic to goulash, only certain ingredients in it--- most likely the paprika which is common.


If we can't ban him from the board completely, can we at least ban him from the off-topic and non-gaming related forums?

How about just banning him from goulash related posts? C'mon brasky, ask for what you really want.

Can we implement a thread ban into the software? That way I can check the "don't let Serious Paul in this thread" box before I click "Submit New Thread."

Jesus...always the goulash with you guys, isn't it?

Why can't we just ban him from all Stews and be done with it. He's a complete ass when he stirs up the Stew.  He never posts about anything related to Stew in the Stew forum - it's all Soups & Salads.

I say he has to be limited to the Meat & Potatoes forum only.

Those are all good suggestions, but let's be serious about this for a minute: if you only ban him from the stew threads, then he's eventually going to spread his inane hatred beyond stews into all boiled/stewed/slow-cooked meals altogether.  And I'll be goddamned if we let Paul start bitching in my crock-pot related threads.  If someone's going to post about crock... it's going to be me.

I'm getting this wierd feeling.  Like somehow I've been transported to Tangency all over again without even knowing it.  A wierd sense of deja vu.

He doesn't seem that bad to me. Seems like he tries to be disruptive and annoying, but doesn't succeed too well, mostly from laziness. To be truly disruptive and annoying on a forum you have to post about a thousand times a day, like our old buddy Dominus Nox.

I support banning people who are blatantly racist, etc. If they're just a cocksmock, we can't ban them, because where will it end? If we keep only the people who are never cocksmocks, then the board will consist of about five posters, like flyingmice, David R, Marco and so on.

Quote from: Kyle AaronIf we keep only the people who are never cocksmocks, then the board will consist of about five posters, like flyingmice, David R, Marco and so on.

I dunno, I think that flyingmice dude? Yeah, nothing but bad news and total cocksmocking all day long. Man, he should get off his ass and, like, design a game or something.  Put up or shutup, dude. :what:

Quote from: J ArcaneIf James McMurray (another poster I like by the way) can get the threat of moderator action or even a forum ban just for disagreeing with one guy too often, well, that would seem to set the bar of moderation much lower than attempts at interforum warfare to me.

Fair comment. So far, i've argued against banning in every single thread on banning someone. On James' thread, i recall saying something along the lines of pundit is attracting that kind of attention, so either suck it up or shut up (or words to that effect). You reap what you sow. That applies to everyone equally.

The main point is that you know what you're gonna get with Paul and can just sort of pat him on the head and let him get on with it. I'm sure he could do a hell of a lot worse if he was really intent on derailing this place. Then would be the time to do something about it. The kind of boredom posting he engages in doesn't qualify in my opinion. Hell, i even enjoy some of it. Take it with a pinch of salt.

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Quote from: J ArcaneI like plenty of people here.  You happen to be one of them.  I could start a list, I suppose, but that seems a bit silly to me.  

It has been the stated position of the moderation of this website that no one should be banned unless they've proven to be "disruptive" to the site.  Here we have a user who has, most recently, made an actual attempt to start an inter-forum war.  And who's only general strategy in posting to the site is jump in a thread he knows nothing about, and just start sniping at random.  If that doesn't constitute "disruptive", I don't know what the hell does.  

If James McMurray (another poster I like by the way) can get the threat of moderator action or even a forum ban just for disagreeing with one guy too often, well, that would seem to set the bar of moderation much lower than attempts at interforum warfare to me.

J Arcane; I don't particularly like the kind of posting Serious Paul does here, though I have a kind of grudging admiration for all the animalball gang, wankers though they are.

However, one thing I won't do is ban him for stuff he posts on other fora; I once royally bitched out RPG.net for doing that to Brasky, in fact.

So never mind what he's posted on the AB forums; the question is what has he posted here: are his posts disruptive here, and serving no good purposes?

If you can't argue that about him on the entire site, can you perhaps argue that about him on specific fora on this site?

Give me the evidence for the prosecution here.

RPGPundit

I am frightened that somebody like Serious Paul works in law enforcement* and he is on my ignore list due to the 10:90 signal to noise ratio, though I don't think that he needs to be banned.

*Though not at all surprised.

You people have no sense of humor. No wonder people think you're all geeks. Sheesh. Loosen up a little. Live life a little. Violate someones human rights from time to time.

You'll thank me.

Quote from: RPGPunditJ Arcane; I don't particularly like the kind of posting Serious Paul does here, though I have a kind of grudging admiration for all the animalball gang, wankers though they are.

However, one thing I won't do is ban him for stuff he posts on other fora; I once royally bitched out RPG.net for doing that to Brasky, in fact.

So never mind what he's posted on the AB forums; the question is what has he posted here: are his posts disruptive here, and serving no good purposes?

If you can't argue that about him on the entire site, can you perhaps argue that about him on specific fora on this site?

Give me the evidence for the prosecution here.

RPGPundit

Well, look at the incident that brought him here most recently.  He'd not bothered to show his face here for sometime, then suddenly the big drama over James' forum ban hits the fan, and he just pops up out of the blue and leaps into the threads, first going after you, and then when he realized that wasn't getting him the attention he craved anymore, he just switches sides in the middle of everything and starts going after the opposition instead.  

He didn't really give two shits about what happens to the site, he hadn't been here for some time, he had no stake in the discussion other than exploiting it for his own entertainment, and no real knowledge of what had actually transpired by which to come to any actual informed opinion.

And then, again, there's the thread about Pseudo's ban from #rpgnet.  He knows nothing about the channel, it's participants, has never once been there, knows nothing about what happened, but he made damn sure to take a bunch of random potshots at the participants anyway.  

I understand your reticence to condemn him for the podcast schtick, but even independent of the blatant declaration of his intentions over on Animalball, it was pretty plain to me what he was trying to pull even before someone pointed out the presence of that thread.  It was a classic flaming dump of a thread from post 1.

This site has enough of a bad reputation as a pointless shitstorm as it is, we don't need someone whose only purpose is to foment more flames without adding anything to the rest of the site or the actual purpose of it.  

I recommended banning, that may've been in haste, I dunno.  A topic or forum ban may serve as an alternative solution, I leave that up to the conclusion of the moderation, as that is how things have been handled in the past.

I just felt it necessary to make plain my displeasure with the presence of someone whose presence ultimately only does a disservice to this site.

Flowers would have said it better. Better yet who doesn't love bacon? Flowers and bacon, and I forgive you.

Quote from: Jennifer Bartalus ArcaneHe didn't really give two shits about what happens to the site, he hadn't been here for some time, he had no stake in the discussion other than exploiting it for his own entertainment, and no real knowledge of what had actually transpired by which to come to any actual informed opinion.

Translation-- LOOK AT HOW MUCH I CARE!  He doesn't care!  I care dammit!  Lookatmelookatmelookatme.

Seriously, dude.  This is the RPGSite equivalent of that mod-ass-kissing that everyone hates at RPG.net.  Before you go on, why not try the ignore list.  Why can't you respond to that part of everyone's suggestions?

Quote from: Jenny Don't Change Your Number.. I Need to Make You MineI understand your reticence to condemn him for the podcast schtick, but even independent of the blatant declaration of his intentions over on Animalball, it was pretty plain to me what he was trying to pull even before someone pointed out the presence of that thread. It was a classic flaming dump of a thread from post 1.

And yet even though every post I make is nothing but an inflammatory pile of mindless entertainment, you never call for my banning.  In fact twice in other threads you've said that I make you laugh so you don't have much problem with me.

And there's the rub.

Paul doesn't make you laugh.  You feel like he picks on you.  Even though Paul is a much more gaming/substantive poster than I am, you want him banned because he doesn't entertain you and I do (or did before this post).

And for what it's worth, don't try to get pundit to ban me.  He can't: I'm his alter ego.

Quote from: RPGPunditJ Arcane; I don't particularly like the kind of posting Serious Paul does here, though I have a kind of grudging admiration for all the animalball gang, wankers though they are.

Speaking of sharing the love, Pundit, I picked up FtA off RPG.net today and plan on reading it in the next few weeks.  I was pretty impressed with the layout and art and all and will let you know what I think after I've read through it.

Congrats.

QuoteThis is the RPGSite equivalent of that mod-ass-kissing that everyone hates at RPG.net.

The very fact that you think that of me of all people just proves how little you know.  

But hey, you only come here to shill your crap and gloat over site crashes, so how the hell could you know?

"I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you says bounces off me and sticks to you.!"

I eagerly await your next tactic Jenny. So far you've made a far bigger asshole out of yourself than I could have ever hoped to do if I had set my mind to it. Please carry on kissing Pundit's ass, and making an idiot out of yourself.

Quote from: jdrakehI am frightened that somebody like Serious Paul works in law enforcement* and he is on my ignore list due to the 10:90 signal to noise ratio, though I don't think that he needs to be banned.

*Though not at all surprised.

Whoa your the fuzz in GR? Where this come from? This true? Are you county mountie, city rover, or state bull? Just curious.

I work for the State.

Quote from: RoninWhere this come from?

I think it comes from watching too much television as a child. A natural need to suppress human rights.

Quote from: Serious PaulI think it comes from watching too much television as a child. A natural need to suppress human rights.

"CHiPs" Right? I knew that show was evil. It kept my attention far to long for it not to be interweaved with black magic. Well that and ponches firebird was sweet.:D

Quote from: Animalball BraskySpeaking of sharing the love, Pundit, I picked up FtA off RPG.net today and plan on reading it in the next few weeks.  I was pretty impressed with the layout and art and all and will let you know what I think after I've read through it.

Congrats.

Do you mean "RPGnow"? Or is RPG.net now into selling my book?

RPGPundit

We don't really do "topic bans" here, but we do practice "specific subforum bans"... the question is whether there's a specific subforum you feel Paul is being disruptive in to the point he should be banned from it, and why?

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPunditWe don't really do "topic bans" here, but we do practice "specific subforum bans"... the question is whether there's a specific subforum you feel Paul is being disruptive in to the point he should be banned from it, and why?

RPGPundit

I suppose Help Desk and Off Topic would deprive him of his favorite venues.

How are Serious Paul's annoying posts any different than the ones that J. Arcane  does?

 J.Arcane, you may do it in other forum sections, but I've seen just as many argumentative or contrary posts  with your name connected to them.

- Ed C.




 (....and I can't even SEE the podcast. That whole thread I generally "ignored" , without using the actual ignore button)

Quote from: J ArcaneThe very fact that you think that of me of all people just proves how little you know.

I don't need to know shit about you to make the statement.  It was evident from your post I was quoting.  You hate RPG.net too?  Wow.  Amazing.  That doesn't mean you can't also emulate the idiot behavior that goes on over there.

And again, Arcane you are avoiding this one simple question-- why not ignore him?  Just answer the fucking question.

Pundit- yeah RPG Now.  $12 wasn't bad for a 178 page pdf.

QuoteAnd again, Arcane you are avoiding this one simple question-- why not ignore him? Just answer the fucking question.

I ignored your question because it's irrelavant.  The fact that I have him on my personal ignore list has no bearing on his effect on the site at large.  

And you should ask Pundit how much I "suck up to him".  I'm betting he got as much of a laugh out of your comment as I did.

Just because you've never sucked the dick before today doesn't mean you're not gay when swallow the sword this afternoon.

Quote from: Serious PaulJust because you've never sucked the dick before today doesn't mean you're not gay when swallow the sword this afternoon.

You really aren't helping your cause any with this attitude, Paul.

RPGpundit

Quote from: RPGPunditDo you mean "RPGnow"? Or is RPG.net now into selling my book?

RPGPundit

He probably meant "RPGNow" but RPGNet has an RPGNow storefront -- which means that you can get it there, too (sleep tight) :D

Quote from: J ArcaneAs far as I'm concerned, he's a damn troll, and the forum would miss him no more than it misses Dominus Nox.

Wasn't so long ago that people were saying the same about you...

Seanchai

Quote from: SeanchaiWasn't so long ago that people were saying the same about you...

Seanchai

Or you. Or me. Or 90% of theRPGsite populace, including the site owner. We've all got tails, we do (and, no, that isn't a typo).

Quote from: RPGPunditYou really aren't helping your cause any with this attitude, Paul.

The truth may hurt, but it is the truth! And since I have no cause, I am less than worried. (But then you know that bud.)

Watch out, SP. He'll drag you into one of his forced feminization fantasies.

I'm full of free time. :D

On a more serious note folks, I have no agenda beyond fun. Period. Point. Blank. I deal with serious shit all day long at work, and the last thing I want to do is come here and have to deal with that same sort of shit.

Quote from: jdrakehOr you. Or me. Or 90% of theRPGsite populace, including the site owner. We've all got tails, we do (and, no, that isn't a typo).

Quite. So I favor the ignore list option (as I did with Nox).

Seanchai

Quote from: J ArcaneHe didn't really give two shits about what happens to the site

Wait...now we have to give two shits about the site, too?

Jesus...Kyle says we have to post about RPG's on a schedule and we have to keep up a certain percentage of on-topic/off-topic posts.  Now J arcane is going to give us the caring scale...

Can we use one of those things you see in small towns that show how much money they've given to Little City or something - ya know, looks like a thermometer?  That would be cool...

Next, we'll have the little report button.  Ya know what web site I see that most on?  My kids play games on a site with Penguins and the run around "reporting" each other....it'll be kick. ass.

your kids play on rpg.net with nuns?

:keke:

Beats playing hide the sacrosanct with the priests! :hehe:

hehehe...yeah...nuns....better than priests...

No, my son, and daughter to a lesser extent, are becoming addicted to this kids gaming site which is causing me no small amount of headaches.  I mean, hwo do you know that other penguin isn't a 35 year old pervert?

I'm just amazed that similiarities in the "report" function deployment, that's all....

What site is it? My kids are online game addicts, too.

What, so you can be the pervert :eek:

Seriously...they play on Club Penguin...something they get at from some site called miniclip.com

I'm several different shades of pervert, but not that one.

Thanks for the link. :)

Well, if we're voting, I vote leave him be. It's a message board about roleplaying games, not something important. I'm sure we can all survive a few turds in the punchbowl.

Quote from: Serious PaulOn a more serious note folks, I have no agenda beyond fun. Period. Point. Blank. I deal with serious shit all day long at work, and the last thing I want to do is come here and have to deal with that same sort of shit.

For this statement alone, which I grok wholly myself, I am willing to be the womb with a view for Serious Paul's man-babies. In a manly, non-homosexual, no Pythonesque lumberjack manner, you understand. :D

My opinion is that Serious Paul can be a shit-stirrer at times, but he strikes me a shit-stirrer without an agenda.  I got no beef with that, personally.

Quote from: jrientsMy opinion is that Serious Paul can be a shit-stirrer at times, but he strikes me a shit-stirrer without an agenda.  I got no beef with that, personally.

So, shilling the living fuck out of another forum doesn't constitute an "agenda", nor does trying to foment a rivalry with one?  Seems to me his agenda is pretty obvious, "Exploit the fuck out of theRPGsite for my own amusement and that of all my little Animalball buddies."

This thread has some wonderful evidence of their behavior.

If we ban people for fomenting rivalry, two-thirds of this site's reason for being (RPG.net and Forge hate) will disappear, as will a huge portion of posters (including the site owner).

Somehow I don't see that happening.

I'm still on the fence about what to do here. And when I'm on the fence, I will always err on the side of freedom of speech.

However, I have now noted your position, J Arcane, and would say to you that if you (or anyone else) can show me any evidence subsequent to this thread that Serious Paul is threadcrapping (which is my primary concern out of the ones you raised), I will take that very seriously.  Its one thing if the Animalball guys start threads about their dumb stunts, its another if their posting actually kills meaningful active threads they didn't start.

Show me proof of someone doing that and you'll have a very good case for a subforum-ban at least.

RPGPundit

In other news I can't express how pleased I am that Jenny is that intimidated by little old me. All with out any effort on my part. I feel like King Kong!

I'd say in this thread he goes beyond the call of vapid duty:

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6844

Read all his posts. Quite a few, and they add up to nothing, i.e. something. And he's checking to see if he can get away with stalking me. That, or at this point he's just looking for a nice exit.

Quote from: Serious PaulI feel like King Kong!

No fair bogarting Faye Ray now!


Just for own 2 cents worth, not every post is going to be some deep, meaningful exposition dripping with significance. Those who do that as their only style of posting become caricatures of themselves quickly because readers feel that these posters don't have a sense of humor. So Serious Paul does the internet forum equivalent of masturbation once in awhile, so what? If you are going to ban him for that, then the posters who do far worse damage to this site by testing Pundit's commitment to Free Speech should also be banned. As it is, only a small percentage find Serious Paul to be an extreme annoyance, so the use of Ignore List function should be advocated.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityAnd he's checking to see if he can get away with stalking me.

Oh for fuck's sake...

Internet stalking is a serious accusation, can you prove overwhelmingly that this is what is actually happening?

Quote from: J ArcaneSo, shilling the living fuck out of another forum doesn't constitute an "agenda", nor does trying to foment a rivalry with one?  Seems to me his agenda is pretty obvious, "Exploit the fuck out of theRPGsite for my own amusement and that of all my little Animalball buddies."

This thread has some wonderful evidence of their behavior.

I admit that's exactly what I do.  Ban me.  BAN ME!

You're such an eggshell psyche J Arcane.  Stop being a fucking pussy and find something worthwhile to do.

Oh hey, and while we're at it- ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTION ABOUT WHY YOU WON'T USE YOUR IGNORE LIST!  The function of the site is to address the very problem you have.

You want to bitch about shit stirrers?  That's exactly what you are motherfucker and that's exactly what you're doing here.  You're unnecessarily trying to stir shit to make yourself look better.  "Oh you don't know me?  I don't like Pundit!  I'm not an ass kisser!"  Bullfuckingshit.  Your behavior in this thread dictates otherwise.  You are a fucking pussy.  Stop being such a crying twat and act like a fucking adult.

You are no longer known as J Arcane.  Your new name is GiantCryingTwat.

Stop emulating the very behavior you are complaining about.  It makes it far too entertaining for me and Paul to make fun of you.

GiantCryingTwat.  Now that's funny.

Just so everyone else knows, GCT is acceptable also.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityI'd say in this thread he goes beyond the call of vapid duty:

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6844

Read all his posts. Quite a few, and they add up to nothing, i.e. something. And he's checking to see if he can get away with stalking me. That, or at this point he's just looking for a nice exit.

Actually, Paul was posting meaningfully in that thread until you started out by calling him a retard.

You reap what you sow, eggshell psyche.

Yeah, the shilling argument is a non-starter unless people crop up in the important parts of the site and talk endlessly about their shills in threads where they don't belong.

Just have a look at peoples' signatures. About 75% of the people here are shilling something in a non-agressive way. Go on look at the signatures, go on look...you're beginning to feel drowsy *swings watch backwards and forwards* Look at them and then buy! 1, 2, 3 and you're awake.

I seem to recall a couple of threads where people were asking about what system is best for a certain campaign and someone wished they had finished their own game so that they could recommend that. Nothing wrong with that at all, didn't de-rail anything and that person doesn't enter Wilderlands or Traveller threads shilling their unfinished game. No harm, no foul. Neither does Paul do that anywhere but OT as far as i can see.

It's a personal spat (maybe because he calls you Jenny? ;) ).

Ignore him if he annoys you so much.

*Leaves whistling innocently at the trigger left in the hypnotised readers brains. Read the signatures and buy!*

JA for some who appears to be reasonably intelligent. You are acting foolishly. Every time you whine about Paul. All you do is fuel his fire. If you didnt react so rashly to him. He wouldnt fuck with you because it wouldnt be fun. This is simple school yard logic. Childish as it may be, its still true. Sometime its hard to be the bigger man and ignore people that are assholes. But thats why there the ignore feature. It alows you to not have to worry about dumb shit. Who gives a fuck whats he says about you. Most of it is reacting to what you said. (Which is not nessisarly diragatory(sp?)) But if you cant respond to what hes says. Because you cant see it. Its no longer fun. And therefore will stop.

Pundit as to banning Paul. That would be a bad idea in my opinion. All this whole thing is, is two kids fighting. With one of them crying to dad. Dont throw one of the kids out of house Dad. What does that solve? You have already given them the tools to deal with this sort of thing. The ignore function. Banning someone because someone else got their feelings hurt is silly. Even more so because the offended party wont use the tool you have given them to fix this situation.

Serious Paul, J. Arcane, Animalball - they're all three equally annoying at different times and on different topics.

 To borrow a phrase from the Good Lectroids:

 

- Ed C.

Quote from: RoninJA for some who appears to be reasonably intelligent. You are acting foolishly. Every time you whine about Paul. All you do is fuel his fire. If you didnt react so rashly to him. He wouldnt fuck with you because it wouldnt be fun. This is simple school yard logic. Childish as it may be, its still true. Sometime its hard to be the bigger man and ignore people that are assholes. But thats why there the ignore feature. It alows you to not have to worry about dumb shit. Who gives a fuck whats he says about you. Most of it is reacting to what you said. (Which is not nessisarly diragatory(sp?)) But if you cant respond to what hes says. Because you cant see it. Its no longer fun. And therefore will stop.

Pundit as to banning Paul. That would be a bad idea in my opinion. All this whole thing is, is two kids fighting. With one of them crying to dad. Dont throw one of the kids out of house Dad. What does that solve? You have already given them the tools to deal with this sort of thing. The ignore function. Banning someone because someone else got their feelings hurt is silly. Even more so because the offended party wont use the tool you have given them to fix this situation.

Dude, you just don't get it.  This isn't about me, it's about this site.  As I've already pointed out to AB, he's already on my ignore list, but that's also an irrelevant point.

And no, it won't stop, he'll just find new targets to go after.  Because that's what trolls do.  The only way it'll stop, is when he's no longer able to.  That's the way it worked with Dominus Nox, that's the way it worked with Anthrobot.  Trolls of that caliber aren't sometihng you can just wish away with silly platitudes and pie-in-the-sky rhetoric.  It didn't work the last two times it was tried.

But regardless, I'm done with it.  Pundit has made his decision, and for that matter, the Animalball crew is doing a pretty good job of digging their own graves at this point.  I'll let them build the remaining case for me, and take your advice, to some extent, by removing myself from this thread.

Yeah because you sure hell wouldnt want to fix the problem by putting him on your ignore list. Whatever my words are obviously wasted on you.


Oh and its not about the site. Its you vs Paul. Quit crying about the greater good, when your only concerned with you.

Quote from: J ArcaneSo, shilling the living fuck out of another forum doesn't constitute an "agenda", nor does trying to foment a rivalry with one?  Seems to me his agenda is pretty obvious, "Exploit the fuck out of theRPGsite for my own amusement and that of all my little Animalball buddies."

You're right, of course.  Paul does indeed have an agenda.  That agenda is to get a reaction out of anyone stupid enough to fall for his bait.  You're not an idiot, J.  Why do you keep walking into his trap?  Do you enjoy getting all worked up over this stupid shit?  I can ignore his antics easily enough and I don't even have Paul on my ignore list.

Quote from: Pierce InverarityI'd say in this thread he goes beyond the call of vapid duty:

http://www.therpgsite.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6844

Read all his posts. Quite a few, and they add up to nothing, i.e. something. And he's checking to see if he can get away with stalking me. That, or at this point he's just looking for a nice exit.

You're joking right? Even when he's in a pissing match with you in that thread he's staying on topic. And it's not like he's the only one whipping out his dick and seeing how far the stream will fly. You're at least as culpable as he, sometimes more.

Quote from: J ArcaneDude, you just don't get it.  This isn't about me, it's about this site.  As I've already pointed out to AB, he's already on my ignore list, but that's also an irrelevant point.

And no, it won't stop, he'll just find new targets to go after.  Because that's what trolls do.  The only way it'll stop, is when he's no longer able to.  That's the way it worked with Dominus Nox, that's the way it worked with Anthrobot.  Trolls of that caliber aren't sometihng you can just wish away with silly platitudes and pie-in-the-sky rhetoric.  It didn't work the last two times it was tried.

But regardless, I'm done with it.  Pundit has made his decision, and for that matter, the Animalball crew is doing a pretty good job of digging their own graves at this point.  I'll let them build the remaining case for me, and take your advice, to some extent, by removing myself from this thread.

Arcane, YOU are the one who doesn't get it. This is NOT about the site, this is about YOU. You hate his guts, and as a result, he enjoys pushing your buttons. Honestly though, sometimes you can be a pain-in-the-ass as well. As far as being a shit-stirrer, Serious Paul is the "Diet Coke of Evil". Just one calorie. Not evil enough. :haw:

Both you and Paul have your flaws. You're just too cranky, and Paul likes to fuck with people too much. But in the grand scheme of things, as far as this site goes, it really is not a big deal. Both of you start shit sometimes, but in different ways. The truth is, nobody here deserves a ban. This is a tempest in a fucking teacup. Our one black cloud (Nox) is long gone, and we haven't had anyone one-tenth as bad as he since then.

Grow a thicker skin, and let it go. :pundit:

P.S. Arcane, I hope you don't think I'm picking on you unnecessarily, but I'm convinced you're overreacting. If Pundit banned Paul over stuff as trivial as this, I'd be both alarmed and displeased. Let's all chill out and relax. We'll feel better! :)

I think that anyone should be able to nominate anyone else for a ban; however, I also think that if the motion doesn't carry, the member who made the nomination should be banned.

Quote from: AosI think that anyone should be able to nominate anyone else for a ban; however, I also think that if the motion doesn't carry, the member who made the nomination should be banned.

Seconded.

No, I don't think we'll be going that route.

RPGPundit

Quote from: AosI think that anyone should be able to nominate anyone else for a ban; however, I also think that if the motion doesn't carry, the member who made the nomination should be banned.

Ugh.

Quote from: PseudoephedrineUgh.

pithy.
Hopefully, it's rather obvious that I wasn't serious

Quote from: AosI think that anyone should be able to nominate anyone else for a ban; however, I also think that if the motion doesn't carry, the member who made the nomination should be banned.

That's almost right.  Whoever nominates someone for a banning should have to fight with them.  Whoever loses the scrap is banned.

I was going to nominate myself, but at the crucial moment, I ran out of astroglide.

Quote from: NicephorusThat's almost right.  Whoever nominates someone for a banning should have to fight with them.  Whoever loses the scrap is banned.

"Two men enter!  One man leaves!"


TGA

I don't know if this topic is serious or not but it keeps popping up to the first page when I search for recently updated threads.

I haven't read much of the last two pages but if opinions are being sought, I'll register mine, then get out: Serious Paul shouldn't be banned or restricted or anything.

The fact this is the first thread I looked at after my long winter's nap in western Idaho is further proof that I need to get my head examined by a proctologist.