Quote from: jeff37923;280953It amused me, so it wasn't wasted time at all...

Ah. Point.

Quote from: Balbinus;280898Pundy,

Some of us, and I don't just mean me, are trying to make constructive points here.

Ian for example in his response to me earlier.  My comments about a media forum equally.

Could you maybe address some of that instead of having a pissing match with Engine?

Fair enough, which points would you like me to address, specifically?

RPGPundit

Quote from: RPGPundit;280991Fair enough, which points would you like me to address, specifically?

RPGPundit

What's your thought on rather than having an Off Topic in which anything is discussed, having instead Other Media (or Geek Media, or whatever you want to call it) in which we discuss movies, comics, books and that sort of stuff but not things wholly unrelated to our common interests here.

After all, do we really need a forum at all to discuss stuff unrelated to games or other entertainment media?

Quote from: Balbinus;281003What's your thought on rather than having an Off Topic in which anything is discussed, having instead Other Media (or Geek Media, or whatever you want to call it) in which we discuss movies, comics, books and that sort of stuff but not things wholly unrelated to our common interests here.

After all, do we really need a forum at all to discuss stuff unrelated to games or other entertainment media?

We had discussed this, at length, in the Admin section; and essentially one option of the public consultation would have been for this purpose; had people decided that they didn't want to allow political discussion in the forums, they'd have voted that way.

I'm willing to continue allowing political discussion at this time because that seems to be what most people want.
If later it continues to turn out to be nothing but an ongoing problem, well, the other direction will be the future, where the Politics forum would be closed, OT will be changed into "geek news" or something like that, and the only places where political discussion will be allowed on the site would be in my own forums, and only in threads that I start.

But right now, if that might be what you see as the best option, it doesn't seem to be what the majority thinks is the best option.  And I'd rather err on the side of letting people continue to have the opportunity to talk politics here.

RPGPundit

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Damnit! Aos is catching up to me!

What should I do? Ok, don't panic... you can do this...

Don't worry, I only post when I have something important I should be doing.

Just keep posting, just keep posting....

Quote from: Balbinus;280514Oh, I disagree with forum banning Cavscout and Jackalope by the way, I'd rather if we have to do that we just banned the politics subforum.

Yes!

Though I must say, this shit is entertaining to return to after my netless time after moving house.

Quote from: BalbinusBut I'm not persuaded a politics subforum fits the concept of this site, this is not rpg.net, someone suggested renaming off topic something like Geek Related Media and I'd support that and not have any concept of wholly off topic at all.

Yep. As Pundit was defending Off Topic, he said "oh maybe I'll just ban you from it." And as I said then, I'd be happy with that so long as we had something like rpg.net's Other Media. It's good to be able to post up things that aren't actually about rpgs but could inspire them, like movies. I don't care if I miss out on talking about political stuff here, but I wouldn't like to miss out on stuff which can inspire rpg sessions.

Quote from: BalbinusAnd, while I'm on the subject, I fucking hate the indie stuff - even the indie stuff I don't like - getting put into off topic.  It's petty.  Just put it in the rpg section and if it doesn't interest you ignore it.

Is that what's happening? I thought it was just GNS and meta stuff being knocked into there. If there's been a change in the last few weeks while I was away, then yes I agree with Balbinus. My Life With Master or Nicotine Girls may be depressing boring pieces of crap, but so are some game sessions I've been to, and they're still all roleplaying

Quote from: BalbinusChrist, how annoying, all this reminds me of rpg.net and posters needing to be protected.  This is not the site for that, peole here should protect themselves.

Huzzah! Damn right.

For my part, if I find a poster's only contribution to an rpg forum is saying stupid, boring and/or offensive things about politics, I just put them on my ignore list. If they say vile political things but still talk about rpgs then I'm interested; if they say entertaining things but not about rpgs I'm bored but I can bear them. But if they're not here to talk about rpgs, and if what they say is generally stupid, boring and/or offensive, zap they're gone from my sight.

Thus Jackalope and CavScout have not bored or offended me for some time. Whereas Spike and Serious Paul and the like continue to bore or offend me in Off Topic, and entertain and inform me in Roleplaying.

Coming back onto the net, I had to reset all my stuff, so I caught a glimpse of the ignored idiots' posts. I'm not missing much, I see. Jackalope's attempts to psychoanalyse people work about as poorly as that always does online.

This is therpgsite. I don't think we should lose sight of that. It's a place for free speech about rpgs. We should not mistake the sauce for the meat, that way rpg.net Tangency Open lies. Which is where Jackalope and CavScout belong, amongst all the other people whose main experience of roleplaying is pretending to be gamers.

I trust that I am more offensive than boring, Jimmy old son...

Quote from: Spike;281097I trust that I am more offensive than boring, Jimmy old son...

Sometimes, Spike.....


However, in Off-topic on a couple of thread discusions in the past few months you have posted some very well thought out and intelligent comments that contributed there greatly.

I don't just mean the politics area.


- Ed C.

Quote from: RPGPundit;281023We had discussed this, at length, in the Admin section; and essentially one option of the public consultation would have been for this purpose; had people decided that they didn't want to allow political discussion in the forums, they'd have voted that way.

I'm willing to continue allowing political discussion at this time because that seems to be what most people want.
If later it continues to turn out to be nothing but an ongoing problem, well, the other direction will be the future, where the Politics forum would be closed, OT will be changed into "geek news" or something like that, and the only places where political discussion will be allowed on the site would be in my own forums, and only in threads that I start.

But right now, if that might be what you see as the best option, it doesn't seem to be what the majority thinks is the best option.  And I'd rather err on the side of letting people continue to have the opportunity to talk politics here.

RPGPundit

Thanks Pundy, that all makes sense to me.  Sometimes one's own view ain't the house view or the majority view, and that's just the way it goes.