Hello, this is the guy behind the Settembrini-Label speaking.

I positively don´t want to discuss or hear anything related to Thematic Games any more. The reasons are closely related to the recent revelations regarding the intended and emergent nature of their gameplay.

The matter is more complicated than just me getting annoyed. See, how a future discussion will be?

See, post 2006 discussions about Thematic gaming was bound to always at one time or the other come to brain damage. Now, every single discussion would at one point come to the recent revelations.
I definitely don´t want to discuss or be confronted with the need to discuss that stuff.

Is this against free speech? In some ways, it is. Although I firmly believe that Thematic games are RPGs, I also firmly believe not every RPG must be discussed at every site. We don´t discuss LARPS at theRPGsite after all.
And we don´t discuss Harry Potter simming neither.

Please, for the sake of civility, good taste and fun: Move all Thematic/Forger threads to the off-topic forae.


Regards,

Andreas

What about borderline stuff, like Spirit of the Century, or Conspiracy of Shadows? Who makes the judgement call?

-clash

Well, I´d trust the Pundit to make that call.

Or, at a weaker principle, a policy of instantly moving a thread to off-topic once it starts going into that direction.

Quote from: SettembriniWell, I´d trust the Pundit to make that call.

Or, at a weaker principle, a policy of instantly moving a thread to off-topic once it starts going into that direction.

OK.

-clash

Quote from: SettembriniWe don´t discuss LARPS at theRPGsite after all.

I really think that has more to do with no one starting LARP threads than any concious decision.

I think it would be smartest to treat Thematic Games just like LARPS.
Its connected, but different enough to warrant it´s own venue.

Actually most Thematicians are trying to teach us stuff that is akin to: "only LARP is real Roleplaying! Come, go LARPing!"

LARPers don´t do that.

I just want to go on record here - my "OK" to Sett meant "I think that Pundit is well qualified" to judge. It didn't mean "I agree 'thematic' games should be ostracised." I personally just ignore threads that get too messed up with them, because I'm not interested in them. I don't think they should be banned.

-clash

Quote from: SettembriniIs this against free speech? In some ways, it is. Although I firmly believe that Thematic games are RPGs, I also firmly believe not every RPG must be discussed at every site. We don´t discuss LARPS at theRPGsite after all.
And we don´t discuss Harry Potter simming neither.

Sounds like one small step down the road to the sort of elitism that get's Pundit's back up, to me.

See, this is not about elitism. I have elitism against Thematic Games going, no question. But it was lots of fun letting it hang out, and fighting the "War".

This is over. They are off into a direction I never expected, and it seems to have been like this quite some time.

I really, really do not think there can be any more fruitful discussion about these games. It will come to the point of bringing up the recent relevation, and I don´t think we want that.

I await the result with bated breath. Breath uncivil and unclean.

Not necessary. I'd rather see the forum-equivalent of the old 'K' command from rn (the popular Unix newsreader for Usenet). If a thread is hopeless, mark it as such and it disappears from your life, with no temptation to keep going back for more scandal and getting your licks in.

I don't see a problem discussing any rpg-related game in the rpg area. That's what the section is there for. If you don't want to discuss it, don't read the thread or unsubscribe from it. Unless someone is shilling or flaming, I can't fathom the need to do this.

If you are talking about the theory behind such games, then clearly those threads belong in Design and Theory, but Off-Topic makes no sense.

Well, that´s not the issue here. the issue here is that I don´t want to be on a site that is not clearly distancing itself from these games.

So, if it´s not delegated to off topic, I´d have to partake in that distancing.

Quote from: SettembriniWell, that´s not the issue here. the issue here is that I don´t want to be on a site that is not clearly distancing itself from these games.

So, if it´s not delegated to off topic, I´d have to partake in that distancing.

Have you ever stopped to think that some people don't want to partake in your drunken rants? There's a difference between moderating the so-called Swine and censoring them.

Settembrini, are you arguing that this site is not hostile enough to story games?  For reals?