If VB is a shill, he's a damn good one - under some serious deep cover.  I've had my issues with him, and he might be inthe process of being seduced by the Forgeries, but I think he's more traditional in his leanings.

If I have the time, I'll try to find some threads for you, chuckles.  Right now I have to work on //www.d20haven.com/forums - how's that for shilling?

Good luck with it, sounds cool (for you being a soulless depraved evil flatlander).

The strike is lifted.
As it seems, I was mostly "in error predicting the fault".
I could be led to believe that pierce and elliot were right.
I´d like to point out, though, that interestingly enough, certain viral marketeers, shillologists and warfighters have dropped posting since last week´s invasion was noticed.

Coincedence? I´d rather like to believe that our public outrage had some effect.

Again, I´m still wary. Any discussion could go the way I depicted, if the wrong people push some buttons. As long as those people don´t come back, this site seems to be the best place to be.

Quote from: SettembriniThe strike is lifted.

3 days. LOL.

Still, I lost the bet. I had you pegged for at least 5.  Who bet on 48-72 hours?

Huh?
I striked a whole week just as proclaimed, today is wednesday. Please read before you mock.

Quote from: SettembriniStrike´s time-frame:
Wednesday next week will be the time.

See?

I didn't really notice he was gone.

Yeah, we don't mind if you want to do a longer strike, Sett. It might make your point even more strongly.

Quote from: SettembriniThe strike is lifted.
As it seems, I was mostly "in error predicting the fault".
I could be led to believe that pierce and elliot were right.
I´d like to point out, though, that interestingly enough, certain viral marketeers, shillologists and warfighters have dropped posting since last week´s invasion was noticed.

Coincedence? I´d rather like to believe that our public outrage had some effect.

Again, I´m still wary. Any discussion could go the way I depicted, if the wrong people push some buttons. As long as those people don´t come back, this site seems to be the best place to be.

Don't rest your head, Sett (oops, accidently slipped in the title of a potentially swinish game there).  That could have been an initial sortie just to test the site's reaction. They could very well be re-tooling for a larger, yet subtler attack.  Especially after they see how reluctantly we responded to your request.  Our demonstration of moral weakness only encourages them further.

Quote from: walkerpDon't rest your head, Sett (oops, accidently slipped in the title of a potentially swinish game there).  That could have been an initial sortie just to test the site's reaction. They could very well be re-tooling for a larger, yet subtler attack. Especially after they see how reluctantly we responded to your request.  Our demonstration of moral weakness only encourages them further.

"Each of these viral marketers and apologists is a finger of the Forge; a single finger, probing for weakness. And when one finds that weakness, those fingers will draw back and form a fist..."

Sorry, I just really like that line.

Quote from: Christmas Ape"Each of these viral marketers and apologists is a finger of the Forge"

I like to think of myself as a finger up the anus. A bit uncomfortable for some, but orgasmically pleasurable for others.

Quote from: Christmas Ape"Each of these viral marketers and apologists is a finger of the Forge; a single finger, probing for weakness. And when one finds that weakness, those fingers will draw back and form a fist..."

Sorry, I just really like that line.

It is good. Where is it from?

Quote from: RPGPunditThe point isn't to convince them, it is to mock and humiliate them. And you're wrong about the second part as well: there's a shitload of people who need enlightening: the average joe gamers who had often told me that "they thought I was exaggerating" about the Forge/Storygames/Theory Swine.  

Because you know what they'll try to do with this topic, right? Hide it. Squirrel it away somewhere and hope to avoid it coming up, so they can keep on seeming like nice reasonable people, and not the gang of utter fuckheads that they really are. Because all they have in order to convince the "proles" of their way is lies, is making out to be nice normal gamers like them. Shit, that's TonyLB's whole act right there!



Ok, look, you think that's the way we should go? Start a fucking poll about it in the help section, a public consultation thread. I'll ignore how any of the Swine vote, don't worry. I'll only consider the votes of regular members.  Let the options be to:

1. Keep things as they are.
2. Ban the Swine
3. Not ban them but shunt anything they start over to Off-topic, as well as any threads derail too badly.

Otherwise, sett, all your little dramatics and sweeping gestures are just a load of self-absorbed crap.

RPGPundit

Okay, it's my turn now. I know I don't post nearly enough, but I lurk on this site every day, so I'll add my two bits.

Pundit, I would humbly request that you add an option 4. Add another subforum. Call it....."the Septic Tank".  It would focus on thematic games, threads with extensive G/N/S jargon, storytelling games, and general Forge bullshit.

Bannings and threadlocks should be avoided if at all possible. That is my belief.

Rename the 'Theory' subforum to "Game Mechanics and Design". Any time the Forge/Storytelling/Theory bullshit appears, just shunt it over to "the Septic Tank". This will achieve a few things:

1.) The RPG subforum will be free of this esoteric G/N/S jargon.

2.) The Game Mechanics/Design subforum will ALSO be free of this G/N/S mental fappery.

3.) It will allow you to avoid unnecessary threadlocks and bannings, and probably succeed in preventing future "strikes", because instead this horseshit will just be shunted over to the Septic Tank forum instead.

4.) Yes, it's a compromise. But it allows you to maintain free speech, while still making it clear what you find acceptable in rpgs, and what you do not. The truth is, it's the perfect compromise....because it gives you the battleground you're looking for, while letting people just relax when perusing the "Role-Playing Games" subforum. I think this would resolve the current crisis quite nicely. :keke:

On that note....I think Sett is getting a little carried away, and needs to calm down a bit. That being said, there IS a problem, and it needs to be fixed. Pundit, I wish you luck in dealing with the situation. You're gonna need it.

Quote from: Sacrificial LambI think this would resolve the current crisis quite nicely.

Sorry, SL, I just don't see a crisis here...


TGA

Quote from: The Good AssyrianSorry, SL, I just don't see a crisis here...


TGA

Fair enough, Assyrian. While I'm mostly content with the current site setup, I still think this would help.