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The staged picture (the Turkish photographer admitted he'd staged it, though it was already obvious to anyone who's seen a drowning victim IRL) certainly was a direct influence on the decisions made. It created the media hysteria that enabled Merkel to open the floodgates and drown Europe in the very "hordes of savages that descended on Europe at Frau Merkel's invitation". The picture came first, a thousand women assaulted and raped by Merkel's horde at Cologne train station came 6 months later.

So your use of the picture was mendacious and I can see why you've successfully triggered Pundit so badly.

Edit: I can hardly believe I'm arguing over in Pundit Forum that Trippy shouldn't be banned... c'est la vie...

There is not a single legitimate source that 'proves' the photo is staged or even makes that claim.

You obviously read that on the same 'alternative news' sitestor YT channels that so many of the paranoid and deluded here frequent.

It is a common tactic on the far right (the holocaust, the supposed rape epidemic in Sweden) and left (9/11, the holocaust too!) to simply declare politically troubling material 'false' out of hand. It is this stance that allows them to say that something is true and yet even if untrue it is still 'objectively true' (the recent Trump respomse to the far right videos he tweeted are a casebook example of that thinking). Orwell notes this as a shared tactic of the fascists and Stalinists. The politically paranoid live in a closed  loop where any contradictory evidence is part of the wider conspiracy.
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Show some links proving this. Got any?



And the fish just keep floppin' around.

Are you ever going to tell us what your goal was in doing all this?

As you should know shitstain it is impossible to search Pundency. I called you out when you did it but I realize that without your meds your memory is swiss cheese.

'My goal' in 'doing all this'? Asking a question why a widely distributed photo is a step too far for Pundit, the guy who has openly called for the rape of those he considers political enemies? Who posted (rightly) videos of people getting their heads near bashed in by Antifa? Yet he didn't need to put any warnings on those videos, I wonder why?

The hypocrisy is obvious to anyone not on 'the team' here.

That simply asking a question and daring to challenge the Admin here is considered some kind of shitstorm says it all. How dare we question a decision of the mods. We weren't causing a fuss it is the pack of shitstained jackals around Pundit who have been braying and screaming.

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Er, thanks, Trippy! *thumbs up* :D

edit: too late, ah well.

Trippyhippy won't be the last to leave RPGSite for greener pastures. History is truly repeating itself, one more reason this place is now TBP for the right.
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Trippyhippy won't be the last to leave RPGSite for greener pastures. History is truly repeating itself, one more reason this place is now TBP for the right.

Which has apparently been the goal. But the student has surpassed the master. The most galling part is I defended this place and its owner before. But I've learned the hard even if you find the base society distasteful that doesn't mean its gulag is any better.
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It is a common tactic on the far right (the holocaust, the supposed rape epidemic in Sweden) and left (9/11, the holocaust too!) to simply declare politically troubling material 'false' out of hand.


Your examples seem a bit mixed up to me.

Holocaust - Far Right claims didn't happen. Often they take a synecdoche approach where eg Auschwitz-Birkenau is made to stand in for the entire Holocaust, and attack a straw man.  But I've never seen the Far Left deny the Nazi Holocaust. Islamists do, but they are only allied with the Far Left, they're not Far Left themselves - indeed they get a lot of inspiration from Hitler & co.
Surely the Far Left view is that all whites/Germans/conservatives etc are guilty of the Holocaust, could do it again at any time, and must be punished/repressed accordingly?

Rape epidemic in Sweden (Sweden, Rape Capital of Europe) - hmm, well the reports are true, but there is an argument that the Swedish definition of rape is very broad and may well skew the figures.

9/11 - claims that 9/11 was a CIA/Mossad job seem to derive mostly from the Far Right, though quite ordinary Arabs I've met also seem to believe this (one got rather annoyed when she'd said: "Arabs could never do something like that!" and I replied "What, you don't think they have the competence?") :p
Personally I've not seen the secular Far Left ever claim this, but I can believe it - what do they say? CIA? Cheney conspiring war-for-oil?

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Your examples seem a bit mixed up to me.

Holocaust - Far Right claims didn't happen. Often they take a synecdoche approach where eg Auschwitz-Birkenau is made to stand in for the entire Holocaust, and attack a straw man.  But I've never seen the Far Left deny the Nazi Holocaust.

Oh I have. There is a stream of the far left that are as anti-semitic as the far right. Usually it is around Israel or the evils of capitalism/bankers that lead them down that path. Admittedly when you travel far enough to the fringes it is hard to keep one paranoid conspiracy theory seperate from the other. They start to blur, kinda how some of the Italian fascists expressed admiration of the Leninists in Russia and vice versa.

One public example of far-left holocaust denial was in the last election in Canada a Green party candidate was exposed as having released a holocaust denial video on YT.

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Islamists do, but they are only allied with the Far Left

Actually that alliance is pretty much completely over. In the Syrian Civil War the European Far Left quite rightly allied with the secular Socialist/Communist Kurds against the Sunni Islamists of Daesh & Al Qaeda. Those that didn't (because the Kurds are allied with Israel, and they hate Israel too much) allied with Assad's Syria. Either way, the close alliance of the early 21st century is over.

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Oh I have. There is a stream of the far left that are as anti-semitic as the far right. Usually it is around Israel or the evils of capitalism/bankers that lead them down that path. Admittedly when you travel far enough to the fringes it is hard to keep one paranoid conspiracy theory seperate from the other. They start to blur, kinda how some of the Italian fascists expressed admiration of the Leninists in Russia and vice versa.

One public example of far-left holocaust denial was in the last election in Canada a Green party candidate was exposed as having released a holocaust denial video on YT.

I guess at that point they are basically indistinguishable from the Far Right.

But the mainstream Far Left position in Europe is to emphasise the Holocaust as a sin forever damning all Europeans, while also hating Israel as a Fascist State. Israel is seen as a white colonial oppressor state, like apartheid South Africa. The Far Left usually try to avoid explicit anti-Semitism IME, since that's supposed to be a sin they're attacking the Right for. And some Far Left are Jewish of course, though that seems less common now.

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Yeah but people forget that the Left use to be big supporters of Israel. And of course there is a pretty significant Left in Israel, by being so OTT pro-Palestinian much of the Western Left has stranded the Israeli Left. That isn't good for Israeli democracy which is increasingly drifting towards religous extremism, authoritarism and cronyism.

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That isn't good for Israeli democracy which is increasingly drifting towards religous extremism, authoritarism and cronyism.

Yeah, I nearly posted that to be fair to the anti-Israel Far Left who call Israel a Fascist State, Likud is a bit Fashy... I don't mind them building a border fence, but I wish they'd at least ease off with the constant bombing/missile attacks on Lebanon & Syria.

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The problem is that the extremists on both sides can derail any progress whenever they want by blowing up a bus or shooting someone in the street. That always gives the advantage to the hardcore nationalists on both sides. Hard to see how it will ever resolve, but they eventually stopped shooting each other in Ireland so you never know...

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Which has apparently been the goal. But the student has surpassed the master. The most galling part is I defended this place and its owner before. But I've learned the hard even if you find the base society distasteful that doesn't mean its gulag is any better.


And yet you talk shit about me and are still here. Trippy literally spent years talking shit about me and was still here, until he decided he could lie about private messages and didn't have to listen to an admin when given a direct question.
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