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Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 05, 2006, 09:29:45 PM
http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?p=2967552#post2967552
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Roudi on March 05, 2006, 09:37:43 PM
I signed up thanks to your heads-up.

The site's kinda evidently a Nothingland child right from the get-go... "reactionary" is the term I would use.  Still, it's refreshing to find a new place with a new crowd.

Looking forward to what may come.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 05, 2006, 09:46:41 PM
Quote from: RoudiI signed up thanks to your heads-up.

The site's kinda evidently a Nothingland child right from the get-go... "reactionary" is the term I would use.

Not actually true, appearances are deceiving in this case. The administrators of this site were working on it well before Nothingland went down. While it's lineage does lead back to Nothingland, it's purpose is definitely something different.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 05, 2006, 09:53:04 PM
well then, the cat's officially been let out of the bag.  ;)  welcome!  :)

Quote from: RoudiThe site's kinda evidently a Nothingland child right from the get-go... "reactionary" is the term I would use.  Still, it's refreshing to find a new place with a new crowd.

in a sense, yes, as it was birthed from nothingland's phoenix ashes... many members moved over here and the majority of our members are (obviously, from a casual glance at the member list) members of the former NTL site.

in fact however, you'll find the general tone quite different from NTL in a lot of ways, and even i had to be schooled on how different it is.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 05, 2006, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: BOZwell then, the cat's officially been let out of the bag.  ;)  welcome!  :)

Well, the cat's been out of the bag for a while. I'm not even one of the admins - just someone who is friends with them and wants to see the site pick up steam.

Good to see you here Boz.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 05, 2006, 10:03:56 PM
Quote from: BOZin a sense, yes, as it was birthed from nothingland's phoenix ashes... many members moved over here and the majority of our members are (obviously, from a casual glance at the member list) members of the former NTL site.

in fact however, you'll find the general tone quite different from NTL in a lot of ways, and even i had to be schooled on how different it is.  :D

According to the Great Cthulu himself this site wasn't scheduled for launch until sometime this summer but events beyond the great old one's control lead to a premature birth. Hence many of the features the great old one had in mind aren't ready and won't be for a little while.

Now according to the Magna Carter this thread, while greatly appreciated, belongs along side everything else in the everything else forum since this isn't RPG related.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 05, 2006, 10:34:31 PM
true dat.  growth is nice, but i was a bit leery about it growing too much too fast, so i didn't tell anyone yet.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:24:00 AM
http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=2967940&postcount=44

hmm, thread closed in only 44 posts.  wonder what that was about.


Edit: http://www.sanguineoubliette.com/showthread.php?t=653 ah, there it is.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 02:28:49 AM
This maybe?

http://www.sanguineoubliette.com/showthread.php?t=653

Oh well, back to work. Firefox didn't take half the market share away from IE by talking trash, and the same applies here.  I have got to get the news/article system up and running ASAP.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:31:59 AM
does that count as the sort of bad press that we do want, or don't want?  ;)  or should little consideration be given to it either way?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 02:35:19 AM
Do you still believe words mean anything, or do you realize that actions speak louder than words? Do you understand that those who talk the prettiest often commit the foulest of actions away from prying eyes?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:39:18 AM
um, yes?  :)  er, no.  i'm not sure.  :(
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:41:09 AM
heh, no, i get what you mean.  i'm not referring to Morrus closing the thread, i mean the thread existing in the first place, then quickly degenerating into a flamewar over nothing, with folks from a third set of forums egging it on, resulting in the thread closing before it really accomplishes any purpose other than making some self-righteous folks pissed off and maybe a small number of folks take an objective look at the site.

does that help us, harm us, or should we not care one way or the other?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 02:44:07 AM
LOL!  Bullitt got banned for starting the thread.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 02:45:20 AM
@Boz: Yes.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 06, 2006, 02:55:35 AM
Yes, apparently I'm no longer welcome at ENWorld. Did I actually break any rules? Is the presence and attitude of this site so offensive that it is an unforgivable sin to even mention it's existence?

Do I really care? The fact is that Eric Noah had a wonderful community. I really miss that community.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:55:50 AM
Quote from: Pooka@Boz: Yes.

LOL  OK, some questions were not meant to be asked.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Aelfinn on March 06, 2006, 02:56:18 AM
Quote from: Pooka@Boz: Yes.

Possibly the best answer to that question that I can think of. Honestly. I think that those egging on the debate made some rather good points, personally - a roleplaying forum which is not afraid of more adult topics and discussion is a good thing, in my book. This is why you'll find me poking my head in here, as opposed to ENWorld.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: BullittYes, apparently I'm no longer welcome at ENWorld. Did I actually break any rules? Is the presence and attitude of this site so offensive that it is an unforgivable sin to even mention it's existence?

i think you were judged guilty by association.  you didn't do anything wrong at all, as far as i can tell.  maybe Morrus assumed that you only started the thread to make trouble.  *shrug*
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 02:59:58 AM
Quote from: AelfinnPossibly the best answer to that question that I can think of. Honestly. I think that those egging on the debate made some rather good points, personally - a roleplaying forum which is not afraid of more adult topics and discussion is a good thing, in my book. This is why you'll find me poking my head in here, as opposed to ENWorld.

Which is why your the type of person we want here.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 03:00:44 AM
if by "yes" you mean that it both helps and harms us, but we have no need to care one way or the other, i'm fine with that answer.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 06, 2006, 03:01:33 AM
Quote from: BOZi think you were judged guilty by association.  you didn't do anything wrong at all, as far as i can tell.  maybe Morrus assumed that you only started the thread to make trouble.  *shrug*

The truth of the matter is that I only started the threat to help drive traffic.  Did I start the flames? Did I participate in the thread beyond noting that this is not my site? Did I say anything on my board other than encouraging people to occasionally bump the thread?

edit - OK, I lied. I figure that I might as well post my farewell message to Nut Test.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Scarbonac on March 06, 2006, 04:45:07 AM
Y'all are just bad.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 05:28:13 AM
Is that good?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Krishnath on March 06, 2006, 05:31:02 AM
Being bad is always good...

...unless you're Michael Jackson.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Cat of Ulthar on March 06, 2006, 07:30:01 AM
what the fuck?:eek: now I don't want to read that whole ENworld thread, but if I understand correctly Bullit got banned because he mentioned this site and people got heated in their debate? out of their fucking minds, they are.

no wonder i never post at ENWorld and have signed up for Nut Test, looked around, shook my head and left again without posting a word.

pooka, you got a great RPG site, ENworld can take it or leave it, their loss.

edit: took the time to read the ENWorldtread, and indeed it seems Bullit was deemed guilty by association, instead of being bashed for starting the thread. but reading the thread, what I think summons things best is: different strokes for different folks.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: SmokestackJones on March 06, 2006, 07:49:56 AM
BS is as BS does.

Apparently it's okay for the regulars to pull the stick out of their hineys long enough to bash a board without even looking past the front page, while a swift ban awaits for those who try to call said regulars on such behavior.

Politics, thy name is ENWorld.  Blecch.

-SJ
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Dawnstar on March 06, 2006, 07:52:49 AM
I have read that thread on ENW as well as this one and all I have to say is COME ON.  They try to say that this site is where the chilren are yet they are going to ban someone for even mentioning this thread.  Which site is being immature and childish?  Just curious.

I am sorry to the people who got banned from ENW due to this site, but I think if they are going to kick members out for having a different opinion then you are better off some place else (like here :D )
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ottomsoh the Elderly on March 06, 2006, 08:01:48 AM
Quote from: Cat of Ultharwhat the fuck?:eek: now I don't want to read that whole ENworld thread, but if I understand correctly Bullit got banned because he mentioned this site and people got heated in their debate? out of their fucking minds, they are.

To be fair, the reasons of Bullit's disgrace was also, I think, because of the comments #17 and #28 in the SO discussion. They can be interpreted as condoning the rabble-rousers' attitude. But three days of exile aren't that long, especially when you have other homes. I think it's better to not blow this little psychodrama out of proportion...


... Unless you want to pay me to know the dirty secrets of your enemies. Then yes, continue to be aggressive, it's good for my business.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ragnarok N Roll on March 06, 2006, 08:48:50 AM
Too many cliques over there, the double standards are rampant, and I miss the old days before all the commercialism turned the place into a politically correct corporate asskiss site.


Hi!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Dr_Avalanche on March 06, 2006, 09:04:37 AM
Welcome to the RPG site, RnR. :)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Megamieuwsel on March 06, 2006, 10:59:23 AM
Thanks y'all for reminding me , why I left ENWorld the same day I signed up.
Not that I needed one , but still...

What a bunch of assburgers...
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 12:26:54 PM
well, it's all a bunch of silly shit anyway.  when the storm blows over, we will be the same as we were already, but maybe just a little bit better.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 12:35:48 PM
Quote from: BOZwell, it's all a bunch of silly shit anyway.  when the storm blows over, we will be the same as we were already, but maybe just a little bit better.  ;)

Rock on brother, rock on!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 12:46:08 PM
Quote from: BOZwell, it's all a bunch of silly shit anyway.  when the storm blows over, we will be the same as we were already, but maybe just a little bit better.  ;)
Gotta say, making Bullitt your ambassador, not a good idea. He's Spoonying Nut Test all up :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 12:47:55 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasGotta say, making Bullitt your ambassador, not a good idea. He's Spoonying Nut Test all up :p

I think he did it on his own.  As a show of support since right now we are considered part of the larger NTL community.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 12:52:43 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerI think he did it on his own.  As a show of support since right now we are considered part of the larger NTL community.  :D
Yeah, isn't that the problem NTL always has? Somebody takes it upon themselves to carry the gospel to the masses, and nobody ever makes the connection that nobody asked them to.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 12:56:51 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasYeah, isn't that the problem NTL always has? Somebody takes it upon themselves to carry the gospel to the masses, and nobody ever makes the connection that nobody asked them to.

I look at it this way.  The ENWorlders that are stirring up shit in that thread are the type that we don't want here anyways.  Its staying up in the forum and hopefully some will click through to here and actually register.  And at this point the thread is more about Russ's reaction to the initial thread on ENWorld than the site itself.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 01:08:16 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerI look at it this way.  The ENWorlders that are stirring up shit in that thread are the type that we don't want here anyways.  Its staying up in the forum and hopefully some will click through to here and actually register.  And at this point the thread is more about Russ's reaction to the initial thread on ENWorld than the site itself.
Yeah, sounds about right. I just have to laugh at Bullitt getting all pissy. He already negrepped me for it, and he can negrep me again for all I care.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 01:09:22 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasYeah, sounds about right. I just have to laugh at Bullitt getting all pissy. He already negrepped me for it, and he can negrep me again for all I care.

Its Nuttest so it doesn't really matter.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 01:12:11 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerIts Nuttest so it doesn't really matter.  ;)
The little drama queen can negrep me here too if he likes ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 01:14:54 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasThe little drama queen can negrep me here too if he likes ;)

Naw not going to happen here.  This is a low drama site.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 01:35:03 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasGotta say, making Bullitt your ambassador, not a good idea. He's Spoonying Nut Test all up :p

yeah, pretty sure no one asked him to do that.  i personally would have been fine if there was never an open invitiation posted on enworld.  that can draw people we don't want here, like flies to shit.

the strength of a messageboard is not in the number of posters, but in the quality of posters.  :)

now, sure, there are some folks that we might enjoy having over here, but i would much rather invite them one at a time (like in ye olde nutkinland days, so i'm told) than open the floodgates and say "come on in, y'all!"

besides, i was told fairly specifically that we don't want to create any unnecessary drama with enworld.  that thread seems to have done exactly that, though with the involvment of a third-party forum making some folks think that we were being antagonists.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 06, 2006, 01:46:38 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasThe little drama queen can negrep me here too if he likes ;)

What's worse - neg rep for being a prick, or retailiation neg rep?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 01:51:43 PM
Quote from: BullittWhat's worse - neg rep for being a prick, or retailiation neg rep?

Troll thinks both little ones need to take breath and sit down.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 06, 2006, 01:51:56 PM
There's rep here?

Not that anyone cares what I think, but this thread had about the same result as I feared might happen with an asshatery thread, it created drama that wasn't necessary for this developing board.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 01:55:32 PM
Quote from: BillyBeanbagThere's rep here?

Its a level dependent benefit.


QuoteNot that anyone cares what I think, but this thread had about the same result as I feared might happen with an asshatery thread, it created drama that wasn't necessary for this developing board.

Troll agrees with little beanbag.  Little ones need to relax.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 02:37:51 PM
Quote from: BillyBeanbagNot that anyone cares what I think, but this thread had about the same result as I feared might happen with an asshatery thread, it created drama that wasn't necessary for this developing board.

thank you.  see my above post for more details.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bones on March 06, 2006, 04:34:38 PM
Quote from: TrollIts a level dependent benefit.




Troll agrees with little beanbag.  Little ones need to relax.
Troll everytime I see your post it makes me crack a smile.:D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Zalmoxis on March 06, 2006, 04:45:29 PM
Quote from: BOZi personally would have been fine if there was never an open invitiation posted on enworld.  that can draw people we don't want here, like flies to shit.

the strength of a messageboard is not in the number of posters, but in the quality of posters.  :)

now, sure, there are some folks that we might enjoy having over here, but i would much rather invite them one at a time (like in ye olde nutkinland days, so i'm told) than open the floodgates and say "come on in, y'all!"

I agree with this 100%. If I wanted to hang out with all the posters of EN World, I would go to EN World.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 04:51:18 PM
Quote from: BonesTroll everytime I see your post it makes me crack a smile.:D

Troll happy to amuse little ones.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 04:57:47 PM
Quote from: TrollTroll happy to amuse little ones.  :D
Troll is just pawn in game of life...
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasTroll is just pawn in game of life...

Troll may be pawn but little one only part of scenery.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 05:07:35 PM
Quote from: TrollTroll may be pawn but little one only part of scenery.
Little One was hoping for better reaction to his Blazing Saddles reference :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 05:13:01 PM
Candygram for Troll...
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 06, 2006, 05:13:02 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasLittle One was hoping for better reaction to his Blazing Saddles reference :p
Candygram for Troll?  ;)

You're kind of right, I do have a very similar "voice" in my head to read Troll's posts. :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 06, 2006, 05:13:54 PM
Quote from: BOZCandygram for Troll...
Jinx!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 05:14:25 PM
Troll ain't Mongo. :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 05:15:11 PM
Quote from: BillyBeanbagJinx!

your post was longer, so technically you thought of it first.  ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ottomsoh the Elderly on March 06, 2006, 05:15:30 PM
Blazing saddles? I'm not sure trolls practice equitation. Of course, I'm mostly familiar with carcerodraconis trolls, which are quite different from this one.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 06, 2006, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Ottomsoh the ElderlyBlazing saddles? I'm not sure trolls practice equitation. Of course, I'm mostly familiar with carcerodraconis trolls, which are quite different from this one.
I don't speak your crazy moon language! ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 05:26:53 PM
Quote from: Ottomsoh the ElderlyBlazing saddles? I'm not sure trolls practice equitation. Of course, I'm mostly familiar with carcerodraconis trolls, which are quite different from this one.


Okay, translation please?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Cyclotron on March 06, 2006, 05:27:25 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasLittle One was hoping for better reaction to his Blazing Saddles reference :p

More beans, Mr. Taggart?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 05:28:12 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerOkay, translation please?
Smile and nod.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ottomsoh the Elderly on March 06, 2006, 05:35:23 PM
Translation: I'm having fun with an IC ID.

Well, saddles=>equitation.
carcerodraconis=>dungeon (carcere) & dragon (draconis).
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 05:39:52 PM
Quote from: Ottomsoh the ElderlyTranslation: I'm having fun with an IC ID.

Well, saddles=>equitation.
carcerodraconis=>dungeon (carcere) & dragon (draconis).

So dungeon dragon trolls?  :confused:
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 05:40:48 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerSo dungeon dragon trolls?  :confused:
Dungeons and Dragons trolls, which are scaly and ugly, as opposed to Changeling trolls, which are horned smurfs on steroids.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 06, 2006, 05:42:33 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasDungeons and Dragons trolls, which are scaly and ugly, as opposed to Changeling trolls, which are horned smurfs on steroids.

Ack that thought passed through my head but I thought you were going somewhere else.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ragnarok N Roll on March 06, 2006, 06:13:54 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasDungeons and Dragons trolls, which are scaly and ugly, as opposed to Changeling trolls, which are horned smurfs on steroids.

I hope there's a template for that? :eek:
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 06:23:01 PM
Quote from: Ragnarok N RollI hope there's a template for that? :eek:
Oh sure, you just take Smurfs (CR 1/2), add the Horned template (CR+1), the Steroids template (CR+2) and the Norse Assbeating template (CR+5).

Simple!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 06:25:48 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasThe little drama queen can negrep me here too if he likes ;)
Not really - at his current post rate he won't be able to neg rep you for about 3 more years (The priveledge of neg repping is a fairly high level perk).
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 06, 2006, 06:30:13 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerSo dungeon dragon trolls?  :confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Dungeons_%26_Dragons%29
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 06:33:02 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasGotta say, making Bullitt your ambassador, not a good idea. He's Spoonying Nut Test all up :p
Do you think I'm in the business of trying to censor what folks say on other boards?  Haven't you noticed that I don't even do it on this board?

Can you do me a favor and take note that I'm going to let my work speak for me and offer no comment on this?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: PookaCan you do me a favor and take note that I'm going to let my work speak for me and offer no comment on this?
Eh, I was all angried-out hours ago :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 06, 2006, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasDungeons and Dragons trolls, which are scaly and ugly, as opposed to Changeling trolls, which are horned smurfs on steroids.

TROLL NOT SMURF!!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 06, 2006, 06:52:37 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasEh, I was all angried-out hours ago :p
Do you realize that often the clearest statments a pooka can make are questions? ;)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 06, 2006, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: PookaDo you realize that often the clearest statments a pooka can make are questions? ;)
I am ready to live a better life! I am sending in my $19.95 plus shipping and handling and a self-addressed stamped envelope! Please send me the starter kit!
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Vermicious Knid on March 06, 2006, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: TrollTROLL NOT SMURF!!


QuoteLa la la-la la la,
Sing a happy song.
La la la-la la la,
Smurf your whole day long.


:p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Roudi on March 06, 2006, 10:44:19 PM
Bullit didn't even contribute to the flamewar that ensued!  As far as I'm concerned, there was no reason for Bullit to be banned.  In fact, given his typically insightful and useful posts on ENWorld, I think that community is worse off without him.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Megamieuwsel on March 06, 2006, 11:47:42 PM
Quote from: BOZyeah, pretty sure no one asked him to do that.  i personally would have been fine if there was never an open invitiation posted on enworld.  that can draw people we don't want here, like flies to shit.

the strength of a messageboard is not in the number of posters, but in the quality of posters.  :)

now, sure, there are some folks that we might enjoy having over here, but i would much rather invite them one at a time (like in ye olde nutkinland days, so i'm told) than open the floodgates and say "come on in, y'all!"

besides, i was told fairly specifically that we don't want to create any unnecessary drama with enworld.  that thread seems to have done exactly that, though with the involvment of a third-party forum making some folks think that we were being antagonists.
And I can't even posi-rep BOZ for that......
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Elidia on March 07, 2006, 12:09:04 AM
Quote from: BOZyeah, pretty sure no one asked him to do that.  i personally would have been fine if there was never an open invitiation posted on enworld.  that can draw people we don't want here, like flies to shit.

the strength of a messageboard is not in the number of posters, but in the quality of posters.  :)

now, sure, there are some folks that we might enjoy having over here, but i would much rather invite them one at a time (like in ye olde nutkinland days, so i'm told) than open the floodgates and say "come on in, y'all!"

besides, i was told fairly specifically that we don't want to create any unnecessary drama with enworld.  that thread seems to have done exactly that, though with the involvment of a third-party forum making some folks think that we were being antagonists.
*applause* (since I cannot rep yet)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: kryyst on March 07, 2006, 08:44:55 AM
I just love the fact that Enworld, time and time again reminds us why people get pissed off and take shots at Enworld.  They are like an annoying child that doesn't like to share his toys.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Maximum Fu on March 07, 2006, 09:30:14 AM
Quote from: kryystI just love the fact that Enworld, time and time again reminds us why people get pissed off and take shots at Enworld.  They are like an annoying child that doesn't like to share his toys.

I don't know.  I think I understand their reaction.

Drader posted a link to the website and let's face some honest facts - the copy on the front page of the website makes it pretty clear that this is trying to be what ENWorld is not.

Which in my mind is a good, if not a great thing.  My cup o' joe.

But, I can also clearly understand why a post on ENWorld that amounts to "come check this out - we have none of the crap that endlessly plagues your site" gets their goat.

Are they passive agressive marys most of the time?  Yeah.  Do I think they maybe have a right to say "yeah, I don't like the way that site advertises itself."  Sure do.

My personal .02?

It would be a lot easier to advertise yourself as "not being like ENWorld" when you don't compare yourself to ENWorld and when you don't post on ENWorld saying "look at me."
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 07, 2006, 09:54:19 AM
Quote from: Maximum Futruth
phantom rep ++
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: TiQuinn on March 07, 2006, 10:09:40 AM
Quote from: BOZyeah, pretty sure no one asked him to do that.  i personally would have been fine if there was never an open invitiation posted on enworld.  that can draw people we don't want here, like flies to shit.

the strength of a messageboard is not in the number of posters, but in the quality of posters.  :)

now, sure, there are some folks that we might enjoy having over here, but i would much rather invite them one at a time (like in ye olde nutkinland days, so i'm told) than open the floodgates and say "come on in, y'all!"

besides, i was told fairly specifically that we don't want to create any unnecessary drama with enworld.  that thread seems to have done exactly that, though with the involvment of a third-party forum making some folks think that we were being antagonists.

My sentiments exactly.

I'd rather ENWorld stay in the rear view mirror completely.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Megamieuwsel on March 07, 2006, 10:28:19 AM
Quote from: TiQuinnMy sentiments exactly.

I'd rather ENWorld stay in the rear view mirror completely.
To stick with that anology:
I just hit the pedal to the metal and have it dissappear from the rear view mirror...
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Gunhilda on March 07, 2006, 10:57:02 AM
We are coming in late, but we are still compelled to add our 2 coppers.

We (Redcap) do not wish to have slap fights with ENWorld.  We remember Nothingland and remember that the slap fights there usually brought the attention of the worst ENWorlders.  If we (the RPG Site) bring over ENWorlders, they should be the best and brightest, not the ass haberdashers.

We (Redcap) would also really appreciate it if certain people who run certain other message boards did not drag this message board into their slap fights.  :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: PWD on March 07, 2006, 11:41:06 AM
All the fun went out of that whole thing last week some time.  It's not even worth trolling any more.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Guest (Deleted) on March 07, 2006, 01:57:11 PM
To be fair to Whisperfoot/Bullit, the contraversy traces back to the original mission statement, for which I am solely responsible since I approved it for placement there (though it was written by Shakespeare and I thought it would be appropriate).
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Elidia on March 07, 2006, 02:46:59 PM
Quote from: Maximum FuI don't know.  I think I understand their reaction.

Drader posted a link to the website and let's face some honest facts - the copy on the front page of the website makes it pretty clear that this is trying to be what ENWorld is not.

Which in my mind is a good, if not a great thing.  My cup o' joe.

But, I can also clearly understand why a post on ENWorld that amounts to "come check this out - we have none of the crap that endlessly plagues your site" gets their goat.

Are they passive agressive marys most of the time?  Yeah.  Do I think they maybe have a right to say "yeah, I don't like the way that site advertises itself."  Sure do.

My personal .02?

It would be a lot easier to advertise yourself as "not being like ENWorld" when you don't compare yourself to ENWorld and when you don't post on ENWorld saying "look at me."
As BB said, phantom rep+
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 08, 2006, 12:50:58 AM
i just want to state for the record that i have no problem with Bullitt whatsoever, nor am i particularly upset at anything he or anyone else did.  just annoyed enough over all the hoopla it caused that i wanted to speak up about it.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 08, 2006, 12:53:41 AM
Quote from: BOZi just want to state for the record that i have no problem with Bullitt whatsoever, nor am i particularly upset at anything he or anyone else did.  just annoyed enough over all the hoopla it caused that i wanted to speak up about it.  :D

See I'm with you on that.  He meant well.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 08, 2006, 12:58:34 AM
Quote from: BOZi just want to state for the record that i have no problem with Bullitt whatsoever, nor am i particularly upset at anything he or anyone else did.  just annoyed enough over all the hoopla it caused that i wanted to speak up about it.  :D

Thank you Boz.

Anyway, no I did not go to ENWorld to stir up drama. Maybe I should have checked with Pooka before making a statement, but since I will have some involvement with this site in the near future, I saw nothing wrong with trying to send some people this way. I was amused by the ruckuss Schizm and Knightcrawler were causing, but I wasn't participating in it, nor was I condoing it. I do feel that Russ banning me was more than extreme, given the history NTL has with that sort of thing, and I think it has more to do with his desire to see his bizarre version of Nutkinland succeed and my attempt fail. Other than that, the rest of the drama is stupid and ridiculously overblown.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 08, 2006, 07:13:39 AM
Quote from: BullittI do feel that Russ banning me was more than extreme, given the history NTL has with that sort of thing, and I think it has more to do with his desire to see his bizarre version of Nutkinland succeed and my attempt fail.
You only got a three day ban. You got it three days ago. You're already unbanned.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: TiQuinn on March 08, 2006, 07:46:33 AM
Quote from: BullittThank you Boz.

Anyway, no I did not go to ENWorld to stir up drama. Maybe I should have checked with Pooka before making a statement, but since I will have some involvement with this site in the near future, I saw nothing wrong with trying to send some people this way. I was amused by the ruckuss Schizm and Knightcrawler were causing, but I wasn't participating in it, nor was I condoing it. I do feel that Russ banning me was more than extreme, given the history NTL has with that sort of thing, and I think it has more to do with his desire to see his bizarre version of Nutkinland succeed and my attempt fail. Other than that, the rest of the drama is stupid and ridiculously overblown.

I get the sense that Morrus' actions have less to do with wanting Nuttest to succeed and more to do with not wanting to tolerate our crossposting to his boards anymore.  He sees it as an attack, and to a certain extent, it is.  I think if any of the old Nothinglanders go over to his boards, and say anything derogatory about Nuttest or Enworld, he's going to bite.  That's fine, IMO.  I like our side of the tracks better than his.  So going forward, instead of keeping this tenuous history with ENWorld, maybe it's time to cut off all ties with them.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 08, 2006, 10:12:42 AM
thank god.  ;)  i'd still like to reserve the right to point out cool things i see over there, like "ooh, see that new RPG book review?" or "ooh, look what's going to be in Dragon next month" or "ooh, look at that cool feat/class/creature that someone posted" or whatever.  that's by-far ENW's biggest strength, and always has been.  i've been to other RPG forums that seem totally clueless on things that are common knowledge on ENW, and i don't see why we should be like that.

but yeah, the drama, sure it's time to dump that.  ;)  like others have pointed out, there are plenty of places to go if you want some of that.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 08, 2006, 10:39:25 AM
Troll getting board of thread.  Troll think little ones beating horse.  Troll smell horse, horse has been dead many days.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Nicephorus on March 08, 2006, 10:53:30 AM
I thought trolls sometimes ate horses, especially if they've been dead for a few days to let bacteria soften up the tissues and have been beaten until tenderized.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Hreidmar on March 08, 2006, 10:57:30 AM
Quote from: NicephorusI thought trolls sometimes ate horses, especially if they've been dead for a few days to let bacteria soften up the tissues and have been beaten until tenderized.

Troll like fresh horse steak with whiskey and molasses glaze.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Megamieuwsel on March 08, 2006, 11:07:56 AM
Quote from: TiQuinnI get the sense that Morrus' actions have less to do with wanting Nuttest to succeed and more to do with not wanting to tolerate our crossposting to his boards anymore.  He sees it as an attack, and to a certain extent, it is.  I think if any of the old Nothinglanders go over to his boards, and say anything derogatory about Nuttest or Enworld, he's going to bite.  That's fine, IMO.  I like our side of the tracks better than his.  So going forward, instead of keeping this tenuous history with ENWorld, maybe it's time to cut off all ties with them.
Ghostrep++
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BillyBeanbag on March 08, 2006, 11:16:35 AM
< Dr. Demento wannabe>
Dead... Horses... aren't much fun.
< Dr. Demento wannabe>
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Bullitt on March 08, 2006, 11:17:57 AM
Quote from: TiQuinnI get the sense that Morrus' actions have less to do with wanting Nuttest to succeed and more to do with not wanting to tolerate our crossposting to his boards anymore.  He sees it as an attack, and to a certain extent, it is.  I think if any of the old Nothinglanders go over to his boards, and say anything derogatory about Nuttest or Enworld, he's going to bite.  That's fine, IMO.  I like our side of the tracks better than his.  So going forward, instead of keeping this tenuous history with ENWorld, maybe it's time to cut off all ties with them.

I can support that position.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 08, 2006, 11:47:10 AM
Quote from: BillyBeanbag< Dr. Demento wannabe>
Dead... Horses... aren't much fun.
< Dr. Demento wannabe>

they're even less fun than dead puppies.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Zalmoxis on March 08, 2006, 12:03:10 PM
Quote from: TiQuinnI get the sense that Morrus' actions have less to do with wanting Nuttest to succeed and more to do with not wanting to tolerate our crossposting to his boards anymore.  He sees it as an attack, and to a certain extent, it is.  I think if any of the old Nothinglanders go over to his boards, and say anything derogatory about Nuttest or Enworld, he's going to bite.  That's fine, IMO.  I like our side of the tracks better than his.  So going forward, instead of keeping this tenuous history with ENWorld, maybe it's time to cut off all ties with them.

Your wisdom is truly grand.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Aelfinn on March 08, 2006, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: Sojourner JudasYou only got a three day ban. You got it three days ago. You're already unbanned.

Schizm tells me that he is still banned from ENWorld, on the other hand.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 08, 2006, 02:54:36 PM
Quote from: AelfinnSchizm tells me that he is still banned from ENWorld, on the other hand.

Yeah I'm still banned to.  I'm assuming its a permaban.  I could just create a new account, even if he blocked my IP I could just release it and get a new one.  But the incident in question was the first time that I had posted over at ENWorld in over a year.  I have been a member of the forums since June of 2002 but only had a postcount of around 300.  So you know I didn't post that much over there.  I can still use the reviews page and lurk on the message board if I'm looking for info so there's no loss.  :D
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Vermicious Knid on March 08, 2006, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: KnightcrawlerYeah I'm still banned to.  I'm assuming its a permaban.  I could just create a new account, even if he blocked my IP I could just release it and get a new one.  But the incident in question was the first time that I had posted over at ENWorld in over a year.  I have been a member of the forums since June of 2002 but only had a postcount of around 300.  So you know I didn't post that much over there.  I can still use the reviews page and lurk on the message board if I'm looking for info so there's no loss.  :D

I'm proud to say my ENworld postcount is under 20. :)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ottomsoh the Elderly on March 08, 2006, 07:57:16 PM
I'm not ashamed to say my ENWorld postcount is several thousands! :p
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Sojourner Judas on March 08, 2006, 08:11:11 PM
Quote from: Ottomsoh the ElderlyI'm not ashamed to say my ENWorld postcount is several thousands! :p
Crothian?
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Ottomsoh the Elderly on March 08, 2006, 08:12:20 PM
Nope, not tens of thousands. Less than 8000.
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: BOZ on March 09, 2006, 12:39:38 PM
reveal, rel, der_kluge, gez?  :)
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Chacal on March 09, 2006, 12:45:57 PM
Quote from: BOZreveal, rel, der_kluge, gez?  :)
for some reason Ottomsoh reminds me sotmh ...

Chacal
Title: Let's Show Some Support
Post by: Knightcrawler on March 09, 2006, 02:07:22 PM
Let the theories fly.