I am not a sockpuppet

RPGPundit · July 25, 2008, 08:02:10 PM

Quote from: Serious Paul;228178Three people share my IP address, since I have a network with three peoples machines hooked up to it. All three of us have an account here. Soon there will be a fourth computer on the network, and as my group comes over as many as seven people accessing this site from my IP.

So if one them calls you a name Pundit, everyone gets banned?

If everyone else suspiciously shares many of the same qualities as the guy who caused the original offense, comes from the same website where the incitement to cause the disruption originated, and adds a sig indicating that he's intending on prolonging said disruption, yes.

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Saphim · July 27, 2008, 01:34:34 AM

I also share my IP with a couple of people.
Furthermore, how do you see a connection between someone who says "he this is my new account, I can't use the others for this reason, please sort it out" and the rpgdouchetard who basically ignored inquiries as to his former accounts.
"They share the same opinion" and "use the same arguments" is a very poor proof or should we in the future hold all trad players responsible for the shit you and sett are spouting? Or all indie players for the shit ron edwards has spouted in the past? Oh... I forgot you do that already.

Move on, move on... im Gleichschritt.

hgjs · July 27, 2008, 03:29:04 AM

Quote from: Engine;228159Even identical IPs don't guarantee such a thing

Even fingerprints and video evidence of him making the posts wouldn't absolutely guarantee it. He might have an identical twin who impersonates him and posts from his computer while he's asleep.

However, as the preponderance of evidence would lead a reasonable person to believe that he is a sockpuppet, I fully back RPGPundit's decision.

Quote from: Serious Paul;228178Three people share my IP address, since I have a network with three peoples machines hooked up to it. All three of us have an account here. Soon there will be a fourth computer on the network, and as my group comes over as many as seven people accessing this site from my IP.

So if one them calls you a name Pundit, everyone gets banned?

When someone blames his posts on an evil roommate, there's no way for an outsider to tell whether there are actually other people posting from the same house, or if the person is simply lying.

If it's really that important to you, I would suggest you ask the other people you share a modem with not to be douchebags and get you banned from online forums and games.

Crazy Elf · July 27, 2008, 03:37:06 AM

So wait a moment... you said you banned RPGdouchetard for being a sock puppet, but now you're saying that Mike is banned for having posted from the same IP as RPGdouchetard? So if you have one sock puppet all your accounts are banned?

RPGPundit · July 27, 2008, 03:51:54 AM

If you don't own up to it, yes.
Note that if you do own up to it (assuming there was some kind of good reason for you to have had two accounts, and it wasn't just to disrupt the site), then no, usually only one of the accounts will be "banned".

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Saphim · July 27, 2008, 04:52:04 AM

Quote from: hgjs;228441However, as the preponderance of evidence would lead a reasonable person to believe that he is a sockpuppet, I fully back RPGPundit's decision.

So, you do speak for the reasonable persons? I always thought reasonable persons know that twins don't share the same fingerprints.

droog · July 27, 2008, 05:38:10 AM

Kyle Aaron · July 27, 2008, 11:05:19 AM

Quote from: hgjs;228441When someone blames his posts on an evil roommate, there's no way for an outsider to tell whether there are actually other people posting from the same house, or if the person is simply lying.

True! Hey, do you think I could get back on rpg.net that way? "Dear Eric, it wasn't me, it was my evil roomie."

Quote from: hgisIf it's really that important to you, I would suggest you ask the other people you share a modem with not to be douchebags and get you banned from online forums and games.

Unless he moves in with a moderator, then they can't IP ban him without banning themselves. Hey, it worked for Curt on rpg.net

Engine · July 29, 2008, 03:30:06 PM

Quote from: hgjs;228441However, as the preponderance of evidence would lead a reasonable person to believe that he is a sockpuppet, I fully back RPGPundit's decision.

Actually, there's only one piece of evidence that supports that theory: his IP, which every single person here is aware does not identify a user.

Blackleaf · July 29, 2008, 03:40:19 PM

Quote from: Engine;229434Actually, there's only one piece of evidence that supports that theory: his IP, which every single person here is aware does not identify a user.

This is not true. It depends on your setup, even in a shared hosting environment.

If you want to say it was you, just do it and get it over with...

Nicephorus · July 29, 2008, 03:53:34 PM

Without going too much into personal information, I highly doubt that it was Engine as he and Mike live in separate states.

Engine · July 29, 2008, 04:25:37 PM

Quote from: Stuart;229437This is not true. It depends on your setup, even in a shared hosting environment.

YEs, that's precisely what I mean: it cannot identify a user, because whether your IP is used by one person or by dozens depends on your setup. IPs cannot be used to identify individual users.

Quote from: Stuart;229437If you want to say it was you, just do it and get it over with...

Mike and I do not share IPs. Or time zones.

I'm not part of any Animalball conspiracies or pranks, either, nor am I privy to the content of their podcasts, nor do I regularly read or post to their forum. If you've any other suspicions of me, please feel free to air them, and I will do all I can to confirm those which are true and to assuage those concerns as I may.

Blackleaf · July 29, 2008, 04:30:37 PM

Quote from: Engine;229480I'm not part of any Animalball conspiracies or pranks, either, nor am I privy to the content of their podcasts, nor do I regularly read or post to their forum. If you've any other suspicions of me, please feel free to air them, and I will do all I can to confirm those which are true and to assuage those concerns as I may.

Is this not you?
http://www.animalball.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=60309#60309

With 1,762 posts I'd say you're a regular poster there.

Engine · July 29, 2008, 04:48:23 PM

Well, I would say I "used to be" a regular poster there, but rather than waste time defining "what the meaning of the word 'is' is," some numbers: in the last four months, I've made 1000+ posts here, and fewer than 40 there. If you'd like more detail about why I post here and [generally] don't post there, I can certainly provide it [and with links, too!] but the upshot is that a lot of people there weren't crazy with regards to my verbosity, amongst my many other crippling personality traits.

Blackleaf · July 31, 2008, 10:05:25 AM

Quote from: Engine;229480Mike and I do not share IPs. Or time zones.

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