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Zombie pygmy hippos are the most dangerous in the Brookfield Zoo this Chicago Gameday.

Quote from: RPGPundit;289209It is acceptable to post links, now, on that thread now that it's in the Off Topic section.  it just proves though that allowing Forgespeak in the main forum would lead to the shills like Kubasik showing up and people posting links and generally trying to promote a philosophy that is utterly toxic to RPGs.

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This forum prospers on hate, vitriol and bile. I suspect the 4e thing has dragged on for as long as it has simply because the Forge-crew hasn't said anything particularly outrageous in the past year. It's a dumb policy to push Forge-games and Forge-likes into Off-topic, and it's my biggest gripe with you as a moderator. Otherwise you're OK, though the Pundit persona is occasionally a bit tiresome.

I have yet to even see what a Forge "game" is. Are the games worthy of the hatred, or just the creators and the cliques the "games" attract?
 
 Are their any Forge freebies that I can download and pick apart?

One other thing:

We do have the best discussion of Forge games going. I very often feel those are the intellectual high-points of this forum, and I don't like the Forge stuff getting shuffled off because of that. I think it's a Nietzsche quote that "Great enemies make great men" or some such.

Quote from: shalvayez;290116I have yet to even see what a Forge "game" is. Are the games worthy of the hatred, or just the creators and the cliques the "games" attract?

Well, they come in all shapes, much like traditional games.

So to make a collective judgment on whether the games are worthy of hatred (or praise for that matter) would be misguided. Same with the creators. They're just people, you know.

The cliques? Yeah, there are certain trends I don't care for, others I actively dislike.  

Quote from: shalvayez;290116Are their any Forge freebies that I can download and pick apart?

There are probably several, usually they are drafts or demos. Off the top of my head, The Shadow of Yesterday that is available free online to browse. It's not a .pdf to download, though.

It ain't going to paint a complete and accurate picture of Forge games anymore than perusing one of Phoenix Command, Amber, Werewolf, Risus or D&D would give you the picture on "Traditional games according to Pundit".

Google a lot, check out some blogs, The Forge or Story-Games and you should find demos and freebies. I'm out of touch with those communities so I can't help much.

Quote from: Consonant Dude;290187There are probably several, usually they are drafts or demos. Off the top of my head, The Shadow of Yesterday that is available free online to browse. It's not a .pdf to download, though.

The Shadow of Yesterday is actually closer to a traditional RPG than a forge game.

Quote from: brettmb;290215The Shadow of Yesterday is actually closer to a traditional RPG than a forge game.

Is that Clinton's game? I always mix it up with a different one. If so, how can you get any more forgey?

Quote from: HinterWelt;290219Is that Clinton's game? I always mix it up with a different one. If so, how can you get any more forgey?

His games are very unforge-like. He'll even tell you so.

Quote from: brettmb;290220His games are very unforge-like. He'll even tell you so.

But he founded the forge right? Does that not make him forgey?

Yes, but his design principles are very traditional.

Quote from: brettmb;290258Yes, but his design principles are very traditional.

Ahh, understood.