Can we get a new forum for 4th ed D$D?

[RPGPundit]

Who's this "we" made of?

Regular Roleplayers.

When your "landmarks" are based on arbitrary judgments on who is a "healthy" RPGer (one must assume those who don't play the games you define as RPGs as unhealthy) then the "landmarks" themselves can't claim to be something other than arbitrary.

Society has judgments as to who is healthy and who isn't.

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[CavScout]

The GM can't say "NO, actually, the setting is like this".
That's enough. If the GM cannot say NO to the players, its not an RPG.

You've said some dumb shit in your time, but this has to rate right up there.

[CavScout]

Regular Roleplayers.

Name them? Where was this discussed? Who was there?

Society has judgments as to who is healthy and who isn't.

And how does that show your judgments to be less arbitrary? Society indeed has judgments, many very arbitrary. I am not sure if you meant that when attempting to make an appeal to authority.

[RPGPundit]

Aww, poor Cavscout. Society has mistreated you? You're just misunderstood? Its not your fault that the other kids all thought you were a creepy spotty smelly little dork?

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[CavScout]

Aww, poor Cavscout. Society has mistreated you? You're just misunderstood? Its not your fault that the other kids all thought you were a creepy spotty smelly little dork?

Are you going to flame-out on your own forum?

[Imperator]

The GM can't say "NO, actually, the setting is like this".
That's enough. If the GM cannot say NO to the players, its not an RPG.

Again, you're lying. In Sorcerer the GM sets up the setting, definition of Humanity, what's sorcery about, what are demons, and has the authority to reject any character who doesn't fit with those ideas. This is clearly explained in the chapter 4.

When you're doing Sorcery, you try to Contact a demon and the GM makes whatever the fuck he wants. Yeah, that's right. He has the right to create whatever demon he wants, give it the abilities he deems fit, and everything else. As an optional rule, though, the text says that if the Contact roll is successful enough, you could go ahead and give the player a contact with the demon he wants. Period. It's in the page 92.

Regarding BW, as you're this steaming moron, let me tell you what it says in the page 268, under the heading Role of the GM:

"In Burning Wheel, it's the GM's job to interpret all of the various intents of the players' actions and mesh them into a cohesive whole that fits within the context of the game. He's got to make sure that all the player wackiness abides by the rules. When it doesn't he must guide wayward players gently into the fold. Often this requires negotiating an action or intent until both player and GM are satisfied that it fits both the concept and mood of the game."

See? It's there, right in the fucking book. GM is in charge. GM makes decissions on the validity of player's actions.

You really think that paragraph is so different from your regular GMing description? Fuck off.

No he isn't. In a conflict, the Player gets to pick the "stakes", and if the Player wins, he gets to determine what happens in the reality of the world. Not an RPG.

Not in the fucking least - the player gets to state what he wants from the conflict, just like in any other regular RPG. The GM has the power to say "you cannot fly over the moon if you win this conflict." If the GM approves the stakes the player is suggesting, then the GM says something like "If your guy wins the conflict you get this, if the NPC wins the conflict he gets that."

Very similar to any rolling in any RPG. As I said before, even if you and their authors doesn't like the idea, these are not so different from any other game advice.

I'm in far better a position than the pretentious asswipe pseudo-intellectual social retards over at the Forge, who take pride in being unlike the "unwashed masses".

You do exactly the same shit with your jerking off with REAL GAMERS and that shit. And you even use the picture of a crazy dirty psycho to illustrate your presence. Nice and appropriate.

The difference is I have history and numbers on my side. You don't. Get over it.

You have failed to provide any other thing that bullshit, and history (if you call history, for example, GG's words) says that your favourite game is not an RPG. YOU get over it.

[One Horse Town]

If anyone doubts Pundit's value to this board, he's a magnificent shit-magnet.

[CavScout]

If anyone doubts Pundit's value to this board, he's a magnificent shit-magnet.

If you took a moment to look at the shit you are sucking of his dick, you'd see it's shit spewing from his own mouth.

[One Horse Town]

If you took a moment to look at the shit you are sucking of his dick, you'd see it's shit spewing from his own mouth.

You can do better than that, surely?

Tell us all why you're here, mate. Go on, tell us.

To talk about RPGs? Hmm, lets see, your politics playground has gone, so you now hang out a lot on pundit's forum. What, i hear? You post in the RPG forum too? Yep, you do. You say nothing, however. You don't talk about rpgs, you talk about other people talking about rpgs. The only opinions you express are opinions on the opinions of others.

So, why are you here? What do you contribute bar mind-numbing boredom?

For someone with an obsession with the military, you sure have problems with authority don't you? Whinging about appeals to authority, having a go at anyone who you think is in authority. Fuck, you'd make the worst soldier in the history of the universe. Your troop would die in fire and you'd be talking about the craptitude of the orders you received.

Hey, i saw some folk on RPGnet the other day wondering where you had gone to and why they were so lucky you'd fucked off.

Here's a clue fuckwad. The ability to say what you like and pretty much do what you want doesn't mean that you have to be a fuck-stick the whole time.

Grow up, you scrotum.

[jeff37923]

Grow up, you scrotum.

Pardon the quibble, but shouldn't you be calling CavScout an empty scrotum? It's more appropriate and accurate.

[Koltar]

Lets not nitpick - One Horse Town wrote a highly amusing post.


- Ed C.

[shalvayez]

Even more amusing that it came at the expense of CumSquirt.

[RPGPundit]

Regarding BW, as you're this steaming moron, let me tell you what it says in the page 268, under the heading Role of the GM:


See? It's there, right in the fucking book. GM is in charge. GM makes decissions on the validity of player's actions.

Except, say, for the rule that says the GM can't oblige the player to make multiple skill checks, right? And that's just one of many.

Not in the fucking least - the player gets to state what he wants from the conflict, just like in any other regular RPG. The GM has the power to say "you cannot fly over the moon if you win this conflict." If the GM approves the stakes the player is suggesting, then the GM says something like "If your guy wins the conflict you get this, if the NPC wins the conflict he gets that."

Its "say yes, or roll the dice". The GM can't say no.

You do exactly the same shit with your jerking off with REAL GAMERS and that shit. And you even use the picture of a crazy dirty psycho to illustrate your presence. Nice and appropriate.

Bill the Butcher kicks ass AND smokes a pipe. Somehow, I found him appropriate.

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[RPGPundit]

If you took a moment to look at the shit you are sucking of his dick, you'd see it's shit spewing from his own mouth.

Aw, now we've hurt Cav's feelings...

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[RPGPundit]

For someone with an obsession with the military, you sure have problems with authority don't you? Whinging about appeals to authority, having a go at anyone who you think is in authority. Fuck, you'd make the worst soldier in the history of the universe. Your troop would die in fire and you'd be talking about the craptitude of the orders you received.

More likely that some suspicious "friendly fire" would take him out in the back of the head before he got a chance to send his own troop to their deaths. Real soldiers aren't as stupid as some people think.

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