Can we get a new forum for 4th ed D$D?

[One Horse Town]

Any objections to closing the thread? The OP question was answered a fair time ago.

[Koltar]

I'm surprised it isn't closed already.

- Ed C.

[droog]

unless it requires minis.

But if the GM agrees that it requires minis, then it's all good again.

[Aos]

Unless it requires minis.

[King of Old School]

I have absolutely no objections to closing the thread, but I'm going to start a new one on the topic we're actually discussing (since I think it's relevant to the forum subject).

KoOS

[RPGPundit]

Let me use an example:

We're playing this game of RQ III, and the GM takes this NPC that badmouthes us, and then attacks because we're not falling for it. He, despite being an elf (small size) using a gladius (small weapon) attacks in SR 1. That's absofucking lutely impossible: to do that you have to be a troll - sized guy wielding a weapon the size of a jousting lance. That fucker used whatever SR the GM thought fit, while we were explicitly told to suck it up because he was the GM and rules were not binding him.

If he had created an spell / magical item / whatever thing he wanted, that would have been OK. But the elf attacked on the SR 1 just because.

So we told him to fuck off. And we were playing an RPG. And I don't think the GM had any right to use a different set of rules for his GMPCs than the one we used.

Many years ago I decided to always use the same rules as the players, to roll in the open, and to agree with everyone when houseruling: once we houseruled, it's the same for everyone. And I strongly feel that my games are better because of that.

You took the wrong lesson out of that experience then.

The lesson shouldn't have been "The GM should be forced to obey the rules", the lesson should have been "The GM shouldn't be a dick".

RPGPundit

[RPGPundit]

Yes, let's close this one. Threads about GMs having to follow rules vs. just not being dicks can always be made in the main RPG forum.

RPGPundit