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« on: September 29, 2017, 12:39:52 PM »
Biscuititian has been banned for making Nazi-like threats of political violence against fellow users.
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2017, 08:39:47 PM »
Are we allowed to advocate political violence against political enemies if they are not posters on the site? Like when you advocated the rape of a far left nutter?

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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2017, 09:11:36 PM »
Personally I think Violence is a weak rationale.  Technically, I guess, yeah, he said anyone who disagreed with him should be physically beaten, but that's a stretch to call that Threat of Physical Violence" from the forum that disdains SJW's definitions of Violence.  

It didn't matter who the guy argued with, Pundit, Jeff, Voros or Headless, once he started arguing, the guy was 100% disingenuous Forum Warrior.  There was never a point to engaging him on any topic with which you disagreed with him, including in the games forum.

The guy was a Personal Avatar of the concept of site disruption.  Even devoted Pungency Warriors and Pundit Haters like Rincewind make good, non-flame posts when they feel like it.  Did Biscuit make a good post ever? Anywhere?  

Personally I was convinced the guy was a fake from the get go.  He was just too perfectly aligned to butt heads with the Gaming and non-Gaming areas of the site, a persona created for shits and giggles to get the whole place in an uproar.  For example, someone who actually held his political beliefs would have dropped a lot more names.  Occasionally Rince or Voros actually send me looking to see who they are talking about, something that never happened with Biscuit since he spent all his time in Evasion and Rhetorical construct.

Anyway, Site Disruption based on posting history and argumentation style would be honest.  Actually using the Violence Card seems like an action in search of a reason.
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2017, 10:39:27 PM »
Eh not surprised just took longer then I expected.
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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2017, 01:21:40 AM »
Quote from: CRKrueger;997174
 

It didn't matter who the guy argued with, Pundit, Jeff, Voros or Headless, once he started arguing, the guy was 100% disingenuous Forum Warrior.  There was never a point to engaging him on any topic with which you disagreed with him, including in the games forum.

The guy was a Personal Avatar of the concept of site disruption.  Even devoted Pungency Warriors and Pundit Haters like Rincewind make good, non-flame posts when they feel like it.  Did Biscuit make a good post ever? Anywhere?  

Personally I was convinced the guy was a fake from the get go.  He was just too perfectly aligned to butt heads with the Gaming and non-Gaming areas of the site, a persona created for shits and giggles to get the whole place in an uproar.  For example, someone who actually held his political beliefs would have dropped a lot more names.  Occasionally Rince or Voros actually send me looking to see who they are talking about, something that never happened with Biscuit since he spent all his time in Evasion and Rhetorical construct.

Anyway, Site Disruption based on posting history and argumentation style would be honest.  Actually using the Violence Card seems like an action in search of a reason.


I agree he was a disingenous Forum Warrior, but I think there are a few other posters here who fit that description, just of the other political persuasion.

And while it is possible he was a troll from another site or the sockpuppet of a other poster here , it was also possible he was just a recent Anarcho-Communist convert who had only got his information from the web instead of ever cracking open a book. Which I think again is a description that would fit a few others here yet they have never even come close to being banned. I've certainly encountered a few guys like Biscuit before, they tend to be in their early 20s and just discovered Anarcho-Communism and work at Anarchist bookshops.

Basically, he was an Asshole but this place is full of Assholes. His real crime was being a Far Left Asshole instead of a Far Right Asshole.

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« Reply #5 on: October 01, 2017, 01:47:22 AM »
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I agree he was a disingenous Forum Warrior, but I think there are a few other posters here who fit that description, just of the other political persuasion.

And while it is possible he was a troll from another site or the sockpuppet of a other poster here , it was also possible he was just a recent Anarcho-Communist convert who had only got his information from the web instead of ever cracking open a book. Which I think again is a description that would fit a few others here yet they have never even come close to being banned. I've certainly encountered a few guys like Biscuit before, they tend to be in their early 20s and just discovered Anarcho-Communism and work at Anarchist bookshops.

Basically, he was an Asshole but this place is full of Assholes. His real crime was being a Far Left Asshole instead of a Far Right Asshole.

I don't buy that anymore than I buy Smon claiming 5Stonegames was persecuted because he was Right-Wing.  Biscuit was a worthless poster and his primary enemies was Pundit.  Rincewind's primary enemy is Pundit (well, and Jeff) and he's not gone - because he's not a worthless poster.

His crime wasn't being a Leftist site-disrupting shitposter, his crime was choosing to shitpost and disrupt the site arguing directly with Pundit, so it was easy for him to get caught.   The same thing would have happened soon enough over the moving of games to the Other Games forum.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2017, 02:11:36 AM »
So his mistake was fighting with Pundit? I'm just trying to see what you see made his trolling any more egregious than the other trolls here. Seems to me his distinguishing characteristic is he just never got tired of arguing with the Pundency's resident trolls like the rest of us. Hence why he was 'shitposting' is because he was always willing to continue to respond to the fellow shitposters most of us have learned to ignore.
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« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2017, 04:59:37 AM »
My greatest concern about the #Internet right now are the growing number of people who seem eager to give control over what they're able to say and hear to others.

This site was disrupted because of a lack of #PersonalResponsibility, because while everyone was capable of ignoring the talking muffin, they choose not to, and responded to its odious personal views with equally childish behavior.

Quote from: Voros;997165
Are we allowed to advocate political violence against political enemies if they are not posters on the site? Like when you advocated the rape of a far left nutter?


At this point both you and I have called him on this. However I don't have a problem with the fact he said it. Wishing 'horrible' things happen to 'horrible' people is a pretty common vent, and I'm willing to give folks the benefit of the doubt. What I have a problem with is the fact he #DoubledDown to defend that position rather than change course.

On the other hand, this is also one of the only forums I know of where I can make such a criticism and not expect to have it deleted or myself banned. So say what you want about his behavior, he still runs one of the last forums where criticizing authority is allowed if not expected.

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« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2017, 08:28:12 PM »
Quote from: Voros;997165
Are we allowed to advocate political violence against political enemies if they are not posters on the site? Like when you advocated the rape of a far left nutter?


I am with Voros on this one.

Wishing rape on female foes isn't okay.


Quote from: CRKrueger;997174
the guy was 100% disingenuous Forum Warrior.


Disingenuous Forum Warrior would be a great screen name.

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« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2017, 04:23:38 AM »
Seems. Like most of the people. Who get banned here are. Left of center. Also when an alt righter calls a leftist Nazi like I pretty much automatically call bullshit on it barring ogerwhelmigb evidence.  Unlike rpg
Net pundit didn't. Link to the so called offending post.
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« Reply #10 on: October 02, 2017, 01:39:29 PM »
I find it interesting that this is one of the few forums where the decisions of an Admin/Owner can be questioned and discussed without there being a huge number of bannings.
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2017, 03:45:48 PM »
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I find it interesting that this is one of the few forums where the decisions of an Admin/Owner can be questioned and discussed without there being a huge number of bannings.

Agreed if theirs any doubt we could all run over to random forum and when someone gets banned question the decision and find out what happens.
No cookies for guessing how that would turn out on rpg.net.
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« Reply #12 on: October 02, 2017, 07:34:20 PM »
I would. Still like to see the so. Called nazi like threats the banned user made as I doubt they existed.  I've seen people accused of being nazi like for supporting raising corporate taxes. I think calling people nazi lime has become the the rigt's buzzword if choice for anyone unless they're alt right nazis.

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« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2017, 07:52:53 PM »
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I would. Still like to see the so. Called nazi like threats the banned user made as I doubt they existed.  I've seen people accused of being nazi like for supporting raising corporate taxes. I think calling people nazi lime has become the the rigt's buzzword if choice for anyone unless they're alt right nazis.

You're a joke if you're actually going to try and argue that Nazi is being slung around, as a buzzword, by the right. No, I take that back, you'd be delusional.

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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2017, 11:30:10 PM »
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You're a joke if you're actually going to try and argue that Nazi is being slung around, as a buzzword, by the right. No, I take that back, you'd be delusional.

You're utterly. Mindless if you think your judgement matters to. Me at all.