Does anyone disagree with the assertion that CavScout is a lawn-crapping troll who adds absolutely nothing to the conversation at this site, and in fact tends to drag conversations down and make civil discourse less frequent?

I wasn't here for Nox, but I understand he was banned simply for being an obnoxious ass.

CavScout seems to qualify.  He's just a nasty, vile little troll.  He's made no attempt to befriend anyone here, he doesn't contribute anything, and he derails every thread he posts to.

Can we please just be rid of him?

I don't think anyone should be banned just for being annoying, any of us could be gone, then.

Participate more in rpg discussions, and less in Off Topic bullshit, and you'll barely ever see CavScout.

If you still see him around, get Firefox, get the ffvb plugin and put him on ignore - you won't be missing anything.

Unfortunately this fucking US election has drained everyone's posts towards politics, the rpg section is fairly slack. I started a thread and replied to replies, dunno what else I can do.

Go start an rpg-related thread.

If anything, just kick CavScout out of Off Topic. Hell, let's kick me, Jackalope, and a dozen others out of Off Topic - if you're unable to post in Off Topic and as a result find you have nothing to say on therpgsite, then really you don't belong here.

I'm happy to be banned from Off Topic, and so should anyone else here, so long as we have a separate forum for discussing books and films and tv stuff, since those tie into rpgs.

But a complete ban for CavScout? Nope.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;264453Hell, let's kick me, Jackalope, and a dozen others out of Off Topic - if you're unable to post in Off Topic and as a result find you have nothing to say on therpgsite, then really you don't belong here.
I'm happy to be banned from Off Topic, and so should anyone else here, so long as we have a separate forum for discussing books and films and tv stuff, since those tie into rpgs.

I would add my name to the list kyle. I have no idea why I participate in the political discussions.

QuoteBut a complete ban for CavScout? Nope.

Agreed. However remember this is the doofus from Tangency who got banned for starting troll threads and then reporting nearly every post - verbatim. It's a shame that a doofus like him can find a home here.

Regards,
David R

Quote from: David R;264455I would add my name to the list kyle. I have no idea why I participate in the political discussions.

It's like bad pr0n, you know you should avoid it but if it's there you go look

Quote from: David Rremember this is the doofus from Tangency who got banned for starting troll threads and then reporting nearly every post - verbatim. It's a shame that a doofus like him can find a home here.

Which is why I say that an Off Topic/Politics ban, if there were a subforum for Media, would really be the test of a poster's presence here, of why they're here.

My personal test is looking at their sig. Certain posters' sigs are political rather than rpg-related, which I find is usually a sign they'll have not much to say about rpgs. But a forum test could be only letting them post about media and rpgs and then seeing if they have anything to say.

If only old Pundit weren't so conservative about his forum.

Eh, I'd leave if not for off-topic.  Days can go by between conversations in the rpg section where I feel like I have anything useful to contribute, and in those days I'd find something else to entertain myself.

The political discussions are usually more interesting to me than the rpg conversations, since I actually have to think in the politics discussions.  The rpg stuff is usually just some variant of "TMNT is cool." or "I hate that game." or some other silly thing.  So many of the threads are just empty-headed.

But yeah, ban CavScout from Politics and he'd leave the site.

See? And Jackalope has a political sig. QE fuckin' D.

Quote from: Jackalope;264451Does anyone disagree with the assertion that CavScout is a lawn-crapping troll who adds absolutely nothing to the conversation at this site, and in fact tends to drag conversations down and make civil discourse less frequent?

I suspect when I get around to telling nearly each person I disagree with to go kill themselves or some other ridiculous self-injuring act I'll be less civil than you.

But then I suppose you don't consider yourself a "drag" on conversations where you flip out calling folks pretty much everyname in the book.

QuoteI wasn't here for Nox, but I understand he was banned simply for being an obnoxious ass.

You know you'd be fucked too if that was the only criteria, "obnoxious ass".

QuoteCavScout seems to qualify.  He's just a nasty, vile little troll.  He's made no attempt to befriend anyone here, he doesn't contribute anything, and he derails every thread he posts to.

Oh sure, every thread, eh? Except for the ones I don't. You're just pissed because you can't have a one party political pow-wow in the POLITICS forum.

QuoteCan we please just be rid of him?

I'd submit that I am far less disruptive than you are.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;264461See? And Jackalope has a political sig. QE fuckin' D.

Hey, it started out as Gygax quote, became a gamer joke, and only became it's current nominally political version after Spike gave me crap about conspiracy theories.

Personal dislike is no basis for a banning of any type - certainly not on this site.

Disruption is. I believe Pundit has said that posting links to porn, posting porn, harrassing users by following them about the boards just to insult them and thus derailing threads (especially if this spreads out of off-topic to the important parts of the site) or making mocking or insulting reference to them in avatars (harrassment), engaging in topics that have been pinpointed as off-limits, breaking a topic-ban on said topics, and spamming, all qualify as disruption.

Even then, a PM or warning to lay off is the most you can expect in most instances. You have to really press the issue to get banned.

I expect to see some posts now trying to say that he is disrupting the site. I don't see it. Stay out of Politics and he's all but invisible. If you want him to be totally invisible, put him on ignore.

Never let it be said that i'm not being helpful to folk. That's a nice list of behaviour for CavScout to make note of and to avoid.

My pleasure.

Quote from: One Horse Town;264469Personal dislike is no basis for a banning of any type - certainly not on this site.

I'm just tired of seeing every possible productive conversation go to shit as soon as he shows up.  Like the A Question For Engine thread.  Interesting discussion of healthcare, CavScout shows up and suddenly it's this lame "CavScout attacks Jackalope's personal decisions from the safety of anominity."

I mean, it's bad enough that he's accusing me of asking to be bailed out (which makes no sense, since I paid that off four years ago), but he just spewed nonsense and personal attacks over the thread.

And I know it seems hypocritical of me to bitch about personal attacks.  It's the "doing it from total anonymity" that bugs the hell out of me.  Just about everyone else, even the jackasses I don't like -- Engine for example -- are at least real people.  I mean, I may think Engine is a cunt, but I'd take a dozen Engines over one Cav Scout.  He's just this trolling robot that you abolutely cannot have any sort of meaningful conversations with.

Has anyone ever seen him reveal a personal detail?  Refer to an event in his life?  Anyone have any idea how old he is?  What he does for a living?

I don't know these facts about most of the users, but like...if I asked Kyle "Hey Kyle, how old are you?" I think Kyle might actually tell me.  So would Engine.  

That's because they are real people.  CavScout could be software.

Quote from: Jackalope;264470I'm just tired of seeing every possible productive conversation go to shit as soon as he shows up.

Has he derailed an rpg discussion? Because that would be important. It is, after all, therpgsite, not thepoliticssite.

Again, we have to ask ourselves what we're here for. Because the site has a duty to support us in that if it's also the site's purpose. The forum functions, the moderation - all should promote the topic of the site, whatever that happens to be. The other stuff's minor, not important.

Quote from: JackalopeAnd I know it seems hypocritical of me to bitch about personal attacks.  It's the "doing it from total anonymity" that bugs the hell out of me.

Well, so what. An insult's an insult. The anonymity makes it hurt less, if you ask me. Random dude online says I'm a cunt. So what? But if I get to know someone and they have a go at me - well, that might burn.

Quote from: JackalopeHas anyone ever seen him reveal a personal detail?  Refer to an event in his life?  Anyone have any idea how old he is?  What he does for a living?

I don't think you're going to get RPGPundit, of all people, agreeing that people should provide personal details to be accepted on therpgsite.

And I don't agree, either.

Let's face it, the real reason you want to know personal details is so that you can do personal attacks that'll hurt the guy. You can call him "fuckface" or whatever, and he won't care. But if he (say) turns out to have a retarded son, you can make some jab about the apple not falling far from the tree.

I don't think any of us have a duty to provide personal details so you can make personal attacks that'll hurt.

Quote from: JackalopeI don't know these facts about most of the users, but like...if I asked Kyle "Hey Kyle, how old are you?" I think Kyle might actually tell me.

You could just look at my profile

For my part, the things I do and don't reveal online are shaped mainly by the thought that while I may not care about privacy, my friends and family do, so I should avoid details about me that'd also give information about them - they can give details about themselves if they want to.

Quote from: Jackalope;264470Has anyone ever seen him reveal a personal detail? Refer to an event in his life? Anyone have any idea how old he is? What he does for a living?

I think have an unhealthy obsession...

Quote from: Jackalope;264470And I know it seems hypocritical of me to bitch about personal attacks.  It's the "doing it from total anonymity" that bugs the hell out of me.  Just about everyone else, even the jackasses I don't like -- Engine for example -- are at least real people.  I mean, I may think Engine is a cunt, but I'd take a dozen Engines over one Cav Scout.  He's just this trolling robot that you abolutely cannot have any sort of meaningful conversations with.

Jackalope, what a stupid argument to put forawrd. Kyle already addressed this but I can't help but to respond. Cavscout is a lying, evading doofus. That's disruptive. Who gives a shit who he really is. He continues posting just to get an emotional response. I suppose the only friends he has here are those who subscribe to the same ideological dogma and are willing to overlook his deceitful ways. You spew insults at nearly everyone but at least you're not a lying, evasive doofus. Don't be a cocksmock. If you do not want to engage with him, then don't.

Regards,
David R

Don't ban CavScout. He's contemptible when it comes to political debates, but he does contribute to RPG discussions from time to time positively. I rarely read the politics forum, and am much happier for it.

The ignore list or FFvb solve all these problems. Asking to have some one banned is a jerkoff move.