Quote from: kregmosier;219321Yes, yes, and yes.  Also, love the idea of Traveller's UPP and World generation rules being ported over to gritty Fantasy.  As Pundit said, i also felt the lil spark of geek-joy just looking at the mock-up.

Mazes & Minotaurs has a set of tables for generating cities and islands which might be similar.

It should have, but it should not now, unless it is done extremely well. That is one cool mock-up, though.

Quote from: Greentongue;219249http://dirk.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/dsc01828.jpg
and would you buy it?

Looks very interesting to me.
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Yes.

And as Ian Absentia suggested, just use the Mongoose Traveller OGL to do it. I mean, that's what its there for.

Quote from: Ian Absentia;219473Well, this raises an interesting question.  If Marc Miller has licensed Traveller to Mongoose for their own edition, can anyone license the original version of the game?  When I made my own inquiry along similar lines a little over a year ago, Marc pointed me toward the forthcoming Mongoose edition and its SRD with no further explanation.

Since Avenger is ramping up to produce books for Mongoose Traveller, might also want to check with Mongoose / go through them.

Check the announcements for Mongoose Traveller, I suspect Mongoose has an exclusive license for Traveller for x number of years. All other existing licensees, except for GURPS Traveller, are ending Real Soon Now.

FWIW the GDW House System (used to power Twilight 2000 2.2, Traveller: The New Era (TNE), etc.) was available for licensing a few years back, from FFE / MWM. No idea if that's still the case, but MWM's never been unreasonable with licensing from what I've seen.

Pffft, who needs some OGL they could rip up tomorrow when you can just write your own rpg?

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Quote from: Pierce Inverarity;219335Ahh, Tan Box Wanderer...

The mock-up was done by Dirk, who posts here occasionally. I think on the CotI boards there have been some conversion threads in the past.

Yes.

More so, that picture was specifically made for the "Wilderlands. Will I like it?" thread here on the RPGsite!
The picture in the OP is another version than the one in my post here. Someone on CotI had found the thread here, followed the picture link to where I hosted it, found the other shot and posted it on CotI.

In my original post I offered to someday tell the story behind that picture.
Since I already have put it in writing on CotI I might as well repost it here:

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Years ago I co-owned a game store. One day I started to wonder what effect shelf placement had on sales. I used to bundle thematically equivalent games together, ie, Nephilim and In Nomine next to WoD, Cyberpunk next to Shadowrun, etc. But I couldn't track whether the copy of Nephilim got sold because I had directed the interest of a WoD fan to it or if the buyer has been looking for it specifically.
I figured that I needed a product that made customers wonder and ask me, "hey, what's that?". So I built two dummy boxes, one for the English language shelf, one for the German shelf.

The result was that not one customer came to me with a remark like, "I never knew they did a fantasy version of Traveller," or a similar statement. Simply put, no one discovered it, and I had placed it next to: Traveller, D&D, smaller fantasy games like Palladium and C&C, and the bargain bin, for two weeks each.
(The German dummy triggered the same reactions--that is, none--leading me to the conclusion that gamers browse game store shelves very focused on game lines they know and expect.)

Years later, someone (Dr Rotwang!) explained the old Judges Guild Wilderlands campaign setting as "D&D's Spinward Marches", in this thread on the RPGsite. That was when I remembered my mock-up. I quickly added a fake back cataloque, answer card, and map, and shot the picture as a visual answer to Dr Rotwang!

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"Now the circle is complete!"



In Settembrini's forum is a slightly longer version of that tale, but beware, it's German.

Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;219585Yes.

Years later, someone (Dr Rotwang!) explained the old Judges Guild Wilderlands campaign setting as "D&D's Spinward Marches", in

Yeah I coined that phrase to help people to comprehend what the Wilderlands was. Despite it greatness it not any where near the original Spinward Marches price. Something I am trying to rectify with Points of Light published by Goodman Games.

I too want  Wanderer. There is so much goodness in that picture.

Rob Conley

My ex-housemate told me that he'd played a game set in medieval Scotland using Traveller rules.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;219572Pffft, who needs some OGL they could rip up tomorrow when you can just write your own rpg?

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Kyle,

That looks pretty cool!  Thanks for pointing out the link.

Quote from: Kyle Aaron;219511Now sitting on my hard drive I have the basic rules for SPACER: science-fiction adventure in the near future. (see attachment for cover)

Remembering the UPP, the six-digits running together that define a character's attributes, I'd always had trouble remembering the order in Traveller, so I thought, why not make the game's title a mnemonic for it?

Stamina-Physique-Agility-Cognisance-Education-Resolve

I like that kind of thing.

The Order of Play in my game spells out M.A.C.E.

Isn't this just basically D&D? I don't get it.

Quote from: Ghost Whistler;219633Isn't this just basically D&D? I don't get it.

Aren't all RPGs just basically D&D?

Quote from: Stuart;219650Aren't all RPGs just basically D&D?

s'right...Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns.
D&D 4th Edition is an MMO with miniatures...
BRP is D&D with percentiles...
Traveller is D&D in space...

aand finally, forums are electronic bathroom walls.

Thanks you, tip your waitresses.

I saw the box, and I too thought I would buy this game .... eventually.  It would be a total nostalgia buy. Never would play it. Would put it on my shelf next to my CT box and just go, awwwwwww.  I would probably wait until it hit a discount bin somewhere, or pick it up at Wingnut game's discount game convention booth. Still, I would want it.

Still, the system would work. It would be playable. Just, not something I would do.

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That aside, this thread has been really interesting. Moreso than the game I expect.

Quote from: Dirk Remmecke;219585So I built two dummy boxes, one for the English language shelf, one for the German shelf.

What does the text that replaces the "Beowulf" text on the original say?  It's too small to read in that picture.