Quote from: OgreBattle;570393I figure it should be best of 3, in 3 different environments perhaps.

Like
"Inside a dungeon" limited space and blind corners
"Within dense woods" rough terrain and cover
"The ruins of a skycastle over a volcano" cool fantasy imagery and terrain hazards.

See post #6, where I agree with your assessment.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;570405Wow thats quite impressive. At the map scale shown you could lob that spell perhaps a little further than 1 square from your starting position.

With a range of 200ft for the Wizard casting Solid Fog, this is true.

However, the choice of venue here was deliberate to allow for detection possibility, time to set up for tactical advatage, and the use of long-range spells.

Quote from: Exploderwizard;570405Wow thats quite impressive. At the map scale shown you could lob that spell perhaps a little further than 1 square from your starting position.

:cheerleader:

If I were on the ground i could've lobbed it from off map and then some. But I figure I'd be flying around if I'm on flat and featureless planes because the view is better from the air (that and my mount is faster in the air than on the ground). But really I'm waiting to get shot down and go from there.

I don't have a dice roller (I tried to register for invisible castle, it's not working for some reason...) so I'll go with whatever Jeff comes up with for initiative for me.

I'll enter at about 500 feet off the ground riding my Pegasus (Leadership Feat Cohort Mount) to minimize possible ambushes by archers.  When I see the Hippogriff I'll sling my shield and draw my bow from the quiver of Ehlonna, and direct my mount go gain altitude sharply and swing to the East.  I want to try to put the sun behind me to him.

I'll also turn on the 'Danger Zone' music.

And for Marley:

 

*snerk*

I like how the big 'pro-wizard' argument has long been that they have all these cool 'innate powers' that give them the advantage in the fight...like, you know, Flying... and MGuy's wizard comes in on a flying mount magic item more or less available to anyone.

:popcorn:

Quote from: Panzerkraken;570409I don't have a dice roller (I tried to register for invisible castle, it's not working for some reason...) so I'll go with whatever Jeff comes up with for initiative for me.

I reregistered on a different email account and was able to find it this time.  So here's my initiative roll

Initiative roll Round 1 (1d20+4=10)

Quote from: Panzerkraken;570414I reregistered on a different email account and was able to find it this time.  So here's my initiative roll

Initiative roll Round 1 (1d20+4=10)

Yeah, this is the one I will be using.

If I can ever get a confirmation email, that is.

Quote from: jeff37923;570426Yeah, this is the one I will be using.

If I can ever get a confirmation email, that is.

Check your junk mail, it came from 'mailman'

When you get in there, if you set the campaign as 'Thunderdome' it'll integrate and make all the rolls searchable; I just searched mine and found out that Kaelik used the same campaign name too, his rolls showed up

Quote from: Spike;570410*snerk*

I like how the big 'pro-wizard' argument has long been that they have all these cool 'innate powers' that give them the advantage in the fight...like, you know, Flying... and MGuy's wizard comes in on a flying mount magic item more or less available to anyone.

:popcorn:

Luxury item, as I said. I like to travel in style and its close enough to being a summon for my conjurer to want it.

You know the real funny thing is I contemplated using Leadership cheese but I had decided against thinking it would be in poor taste but ahh well. We all make mistakes.

Anyways, he beat me in initiative and is too far away and in the air so this changes my tactics quite a bit considering Solid Fog can't reach (If I'm doing the math on his maneruvering right). Instead I'll land near the trees in te center of the battle field (might as well make use of the landscape instead of just flying above it right?). Then I suppose I'll land and cast Silent Image to create a large swirling orb of black with which I can gain Total Concealment and bide my time for now. I'll make the orb have say a... 30ft radius? Yea I'll go with that for now.

Quote from: Panzerkraken;570434Check your junk mail, it came from 'mailman'

Crap on a cracker, I think I deleted the damn thing.

Trying again....

Quote from: MGuy;570437Luxury item, as I said. I like to travel in style and its close enough to being a summon for my conjurer to want it.

You know the real funny thing is I contemplated using Leadership cheese but I had decided against thinking it would be in poor taste but ahh well. We all make mistakes.

Anyways, he beat me in initiative and is too far away and in the air so this changes my tactics quite a bit considering Solid Fog can't reach (If I'm doing the math on his maneruvering right). Instead I'll land near the trees in te center of the battle field (might as well make use of the landscape instead of just flying above it right?). Then I suppose I'll land and cast Silent Image to create a large swirling orb of black with which I can gain Total Concealment and bide my time for now. I'll make the orb have say a... 30ft radius? Yea I'll go with that for now.

You still both have to detect each other first.

Once I get the range rolled for the terrain, I can let you know a minimum distance. Which will be once I get registered on the dice-roller site. It still has not sent me an email, I may have to wait until someone checks it.

Quote from: MGuy;570437Luxury item, as I said. I like to travel in style and its close enough to being a summon for my conjurer to want it.

You know the real funny thing is I contemplated using Leadership cheese but I had decided against thinking it would be in poor taste but ahh well. We all make mistakes.

Leadership cheese would be if you landed and my squad of Ranger followers popped up from spider holes and murdered you with bows  It would've been just as easy to buy a flying mount, but didn't fit as well as having a companion.  It made for some nice history for him.

Quote from: Panzerkraken;570443Leadership cheese would be if you landed and my squad of Ranger followers popped up from spider holes and murdered you with bows  It would've been just as easy to buy a flying mount, but didn't fit as well as having a companion.  It made for some nice history for him.

Or I could have had another caster as my cohort and really expanded my combat options without spending hardly any gold on their equipment, Even 3 or 4 levels behind would still provide me with a wealth of extra options for both attack and defense, I avoided doing so because I wanted this to be a measure of what the classes can do. Even the mount I have is just a luxury piece that I got cause I got tired of buying scrolls and didn't wan't to tempt myself into UMD shennanigans. I could've summoned a hippogriff or even a griffon and have ridden it to the battle field. However this wildly expensive one that can't fight ever seemed cooler.

TL: DR: I didn't use Leadership because this is supposed to highlight the difference of power between the classes and I felt getting a leg up through the wildly unbalanced leadership feat would've muddied things.

Quote from: MGuy;570445Or I could have had another caster as my cohort and really expanded my combat options without spending hardly any gold on their equipment, Even 3 or 4 levels behind would still provide me with a wealth of extra options for both attack and defense, I avoided doing so because I wanted this to be a measure of what the classes can do. Even the mount I have is just a luxury piece that I got cause I got tired of buying scrolls and didn't wan't to tempt myself into UMD shennanigans. I could've summoned a hippogriff or even a griffon and have ridden it to the battle field. However this wildly expensive one that can't fight ever seemed cooler.

TL: DR: I didn't use Leadership because this is supposed to highlight the difference of power between the classes and I felt getting a leg up through the wildly unbalanced leadership feat would've muddied things.

Leadership is a feat.  Part of what makes up a Fighter's class is a ton of feats and what you can use them for.  As I pointed out to Jeff when I sent him the character for review, and as I said before, I could've just BOUGHT a flying mount and cleared out another feat slot for something else, since even a purchased pegasus is totally loyal for life to a good or neutral rider, and by the book values it's only 3000gp to buy the egg and have it raised and trained.  But I have a ton of feats, as part of my class, and a pure-strain fighter does well with some options.  This guy is a mounted-knight type.  He has the previously discussed longbow, but as we said in the setup, that's not his focus, mounted combat is, and in a vaguely medieval setting, that means that he's a leader.

But if you think I've taken an unfair advantage, you're welcome to withdraw.


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:popcorn:

Go on boys I'm mildly interested but would either of you like some cheese with that whine? Just checking.