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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2006, 06:51:21 PM »
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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2006, 06:52:13 PM »
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You know, Mr. Analytical has a good point... Too many subforums might divide attention.


The forums as we have them right now seem to be working out; most of them are being posted to regularly, and keeping up momentum. The only one that really isn't is the Craft of Gameplay and the Play-by-post fora, and I sort of assumed those would be low-volume.

And the Pundit's forum exists for two reasons:
1. I'm the chief admin. Its my perogative. You all deserve to bask in my glory.

2. More seriously, its actually to divert the whole issue of my personality AWAY from the main Roleplaying forum.

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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2006, 06:52:48 PM »
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Wow, man.  You've done good things with the site so far.  Do you really want to shoot all your progress in the foot like this?

This is the first step towards a good board going bad.

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How so? Could you please explain your objections and why you think switching around the naming order of two forums is the first step to the board going bad?

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2006, 06:54:42 PM »
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I take it that's the therpgsite.com as a whole and not just the theory forum.

Interesting, that was the same thing RPGNet requested.


No, no, the Theory forum. Not the site as a whole. If you really want to bitch about the Forge, which you in particular seem to have as your entire raison d'etre (that and threatening to leave at any time), you could do so on any of the other fora on this site.

But I would think that you in particular would appreciate the idea of having a forum for theory where the goal is not to let it get dominated by GNS-conventions.

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2006, 06:56:46 PM »
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Yeah, that does come dangerously close to a topic-ban Pundit.

The fact is that this board is already finding a certain character and GNS discussions aren't part of it (largely because a sizeable chunk of the people on here hate the Forge).  There's no need to comment on what can and can't be posted.


Note that it was a strongly-worded REQUEST. Not an order.

It was me saying: "I think this is what would be most interesting for this forum, and would help us to stand out; if we were about theory but not forge-theory, and if we did something with this subforum rather than just bitch about the Forge. I'm hoping you guys will see it the same way and respect the mission statement of this subforum".
Its NOT me saying that I'm going to ban anyone or close anything.
I'm hoping you guys will get enthused with the concept of actually getting the whole issue of the Forge and GNS out of the limelight and try doing something different for a change.

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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2006, 06:57:54 PM »
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I don't think we're banned from discussing it, just requested not to.

I think technically I can start a thread called GNS for Furries in which I apply GNS theory to developing a shared gming game for furry fans, and while that would cause Pundit personal pain I wouldn't be stopped from doing so.


"Pain"? My lower intestine developed bleeding polyps at the mere thought of it.

But no, I wouldn't stop you.

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2006, 06:59:49 PM »
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I take requests seriously from site owners. To me it equals a topic ban.

Oh well, no real loss. I was going to have to leave next week anyway or lose that $20.


So wait, because you feel like you can't talk about (bitch about) the Forge on here anymore, you are leaving?

You do realize that amounts to suggesting that the only reason you were here in the first place was to bitch about the Forge, right?

I mean, you're a smart guy, there's so much that you could contribute... why are you being such a fucking self-defeating waste?

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2006, 07:07:34 PM »
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I think technically I can start a thread called GNS for Furries in which I apply GNS theory to developing a shared gming game for furry fans, and while that would cause Pundit personal pain I wouldn't be stopped from doing so.

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2006, 07:09:21 PM »
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You do realize that amounts to suggesting that the only reason you were here in the first place was to bitch about the Forge, right?


  No, YOU have to realise that there's more to managing a forum than good will.  It also takes more than a little diplomacy and political nous.  One of the main political issues surrounding RPG forums is the issue of freedom of speech.

  When you, a person in authority, starts making statements about how we shouldn't talk about something, it sends out unpleasant shockwaves.

  I agree that Brian is over-reacting a touch but you really do need to be careful about what you say when you step up onto your "community leader" soap box.

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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2006, 07:19:01 PM »
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I'm hoping you guys will get enthused with the concept of actually getting the whole issue of the Forge and GNS out of the limelight and try doing something different for a change.

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"Limelight"? "something different for a change"? I think this must be a "RPG.net" thang, because I frequent several game boards, and the Forge is a rare topic at any of them. For me, discussion of the Forge is something different. I don't really have any interest in it, but it's something different for me.
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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2006, 07:28:46 PM »
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No, YOU have to realise that there's more to managing a forum than good will.  It also takes more than a little diplomacy and political nous.  One of the main political issues surrounding RPG forums is the issue of freedom of speech.

Am I reading you correctly that by failing to ban or restrict anyone but instead merely request certain guidelines be followed, he is thereby inpinging the freedom of speech?

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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2006, 07:37:26 PM »
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Am I reading you correctly that by failing to ban or restrict anyone but instead merely request certain guidelines be followed, he is thereby inpinging the freedom of speech?


  No, not at all.

  However, he is sending out the message that there are certain types of discussion that the management frown upon.  Given the youth of the forum and the Pundit's reputation (not that mine is any better) it sends the wrong kind of message, especially when part of the identity the forum is trying to devellop is a forum for free and unfettered discussion.

  Basically it sends the wrong kind of message is what I'm saying.

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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2006, 07:46:58 PM »
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So wait, because you feel like you can't talk about (bitch about) the Forge on here anymore, you are leaving?


I'm leaving anyway. Internet isn't my thing anymore. All this does is perhaps speed it up a bit.

I actually find it rather funny in a way. Here we have a person who's infamous because of his attacks on the Forge, and his first topic ban is for attacks on the Forge.

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You do realize that amounts to suggesting that the only reason you were here in the first place was to bitch about the Forge, right?


I'm here because an old online friend asked me to take a look. Nothing more. Some old friends to say hi to.

And yes, I enjoyed bitching about the Forge while I was here. Nothing like giving a dead horse a few kicks for old times sake.



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I mean, you're a smart guy, there's so much that you could contribute... why are you being such a fucking self-defeating waste?


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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2006, 07:58:05 PM »
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When you, a person in authority, starts making statements about how we shouldn't talk about something, it sends out unpleasant shockwaves.

I agree that Brian is over-reacting a touch but you really do need to be careful about what you say when you step up onto your "community leader" soap box.

This reminds me a little bit of HinterWelt's thread focusing on players upset that the rules don't let them make the type of character they want.

If the Pundit says "Uh, could we not talk about GNS?" I think most of the posters on the board are strong-minded enough to say, "Hm, interesting." or "Screw you, Pundit, pry my Forge theory from my cold, dead fingers."

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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2006, 09:19:55 PM »
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If the Pundit says "Uh, could we not talk about GNS?" I think most of the posters on the board are strong-minded enough to say, "Hm, interesting." or "Screw you, Pundit, pry my Forge theory from my cold, dead fingers."


I don't see it as a question of being strong-minded, it's one of basic politeness. His board and all you know.
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