Nope, sorry. I do NOT accept "adventure game" as a definition of the "kind of games I play".

You see, fucker, there's already a term that exists out there for the kind of games I'm playing; I'm the one playing ROLE-PLAYING GAMES.

You aren't. You're trying to take that word away from me, because you want ownership of it.

You want to go off, start your own thing and call it "story games"? That's perfectly fine by me, please go. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

But if you think as your parting shot you're going to get to claim that what I do is "just play little adventures", or that my games are just for "adventure make believe", not "STORY", not something as sophisticated as you. If you think, FUCKER, you're going to get to define away the fact that I ROLE-PLAY, and claim that what I do is somehow not that, you've got another thing coming to you.

There is one term, and one term only for the type of gaming I do: ROLE PLAYING GAMES.  Live with that. Its our term, not yours, you can't have it, and you can't take it away.

I don't want your denigrating "adventure games" title, thank you very much.

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That's the thing, though: people who like Adventure Games/RPGs overlap a lot with people who like Story Games, and both those groups overlap with folk who like LARPing of various varieties...

To say there's no connection, that the hobbies are mutually exclusive, doesn't seem to be supported by the evidence (especially since there are plenty of games that blend adventure gaming and story game elements). Is the over-arching meta-hobby that covers all those categories REALLY big enough that we can afford to excommunicate people whose play styles we don't like? Especially if some people - shock! - like both story games and adventure games?

Umm, context?  :confused:

Quote from: WarthurThat's the thing, though: people who like Adventure Games/RPGs overlap a lot with people who like Story Games, and both those groups overlap with folk who like LARPing of various varieties...

To say there's no connection, that the hobbies are mutually exclusive, doesn't seem to be supported by the evidence (especially since there are plenty of games that blend adventure gaming and story game elements). Is the over-arching meta-hobby that covers all those categories REALLY big enough that we can afford to excommunicate people whose play styles we don't like? Especially if some people - shock! - like both story games and adventure games?

Its not a question of mutual exclusivity, its a question of a battle over ownership of words.

I love backgammon. My love of backgammon is not exclusive with my love of D&D.  That in no way means I should try to re-define Backgammon as an "RPG", or suggest that neither Backgammon nor D&D are RPGs.

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Quote from: RedFoxUmm, context?  :confused:

Check out another thread in this very forum.  For some time now, the Theory gang have been trying to redefine "traditional" RPGs as "adventure games", occasionally redefining their own games as "story games"; in what I can only imagine is a kind of scorched earth policy of saying "If our games can't be RPGs then no one's can".

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I thought it was Settembrini who first came up with 'adventure games'.

Quote from: droogI thought it was Settembrini who first came up with 'adventure games'.

That's correct, Settembrini was the first person who started making the distinction between Adventure Games as a subset of RPGs.

So now Settembrini, too, is a "Swine" and a "Fucker".

One of us. One of us. One of us.

Yep. Settembrini. Even Pundit's strongest supporters aren't pure enough to fight for his side.

Now we're at the purges.  Soon there will be shootings.  Then cake and a nap.  Then more shootings.

Fast times at RPGsite!

Quote from: fonkaygarryNow we're at the purges.  Soon there will be shootings.  Then cake and a nap.  Then more shootings.

Hold on.

I have to wait through purges and shootings?

Dammit, I want my cake NOW.

Quote from: Levi KornelsenHold on.

I have to wait through purges and shootings?

Dammit, I want my cake NOW.

This isn't Noblis, Fonk can say "No."

It's a joke people...just a joke...

Oh, c'mon, Fonk! Let them eat cake! :O

-clash

You can try to eat your cake. I won't stand in your way.

First you have to find the cake.  I hear they once made cake in a shadow earth. you could go there when you had more time...

... but, of course, you're not the only one in the family who has an interest in cake.  I'd employ a poison-tester, were I you.