I forgot to mention - I tried out the PA/RF/EF/TA rules, and they worked to a T. The flight leader, for example, lost 20 fuel, had his rudder shot to ribbons and his Mainteneance up to 20, and was wounded by shrapnel coming through the pilot armor.

Another nice thing that's working out is that since leaders get a share of the Notice their people generate, the Flight leader is free to concentrate on keeping the group working together rather than going for kills. I have seen many times in the literature Flight or Squadron leaders with far fewer kills than their charges. That's working out wonderfully.

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Quote from: flyingmiceIf you can find references to immelmans in the literature, I'd be more than happy to include them, Geezer.

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Oh, I'm PERFECTLY willing to believe your research is accurate.  I just think it's interesting that all these older games had it.

Of course, source material gets better every year.  That's both the joy and bane of being a historian.

Quote from: Old GeezerOh, I'm PERFECTLY willing to believe your research is accurate.  I just think it's interesting that all these older games had it.

Of course, source material gets better every year.  That's both the joy and bane of being a historian.

Perhaps they're thinking of the Immelman Turn, which by WWII had morphed into the Wingover? There's always been a bit of confusion between the Immelman and the Immelman Turn.

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Quote from: flyingmicePerhaps they're thinking of the Immelman Turn, which by WWII had morphed into the Wingover? There's always been a bit of confusion between the Immelman and the Immelman Turn.

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Really?

Tell me more.

The Immelman is a Half Loop Up combined with a Half Roll, with the plane ending up directly above it's starting position, with its course rotated 180 degrees. This is an acrobatic maneuver, wrongly attributed to Max Immelman of the Great War.

An Immelman Turn is the combat maneuver Max Immelman actually used, pulling the plane up almost into a stall, then kicking the rudder hard over to spin the craft around and dive back down into the enemy, reversing directions and ending up at the starting position at the same altitude, but 180 degrees reversed.

By WWII, due to the higher wing loading and stall speeds of the aircraft then current, this had morphed into the Wingover, where the pilot pulls the aircraft up and simultaneously turns, eventually turning from a climb into a dive, then pulling out at the starting level, on a course parallel to but reversed 180 degrees from the original course. This maintains energy much better than an Immelman Turn. It looks like railroad tracks united by a vertical "U".

If you continue the dive before flattening out, the Wingover becomes a Half Cuban Eight, the typical strafing pattern.

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Cool.

I was afraid I was teaching my grandmother to suck eggs there...

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I've set up a Yahoo Group - In Harm's Way:Aces - for Aces in Spades or Aces And Angels. If you're interested in joining, just follow the link.

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I've set up the Aces And Angels page in preparation for the release of the game. Does the ad copy look decent?

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yup, very nice.  not too busy, just enough info.

I finished Aces And Angels last night, compiling the pdf at 2 in the morning. Rather than posting it up for sale, I sent it to myself at the office, intending to post it up there, That was a very smart move! I managed to butcher the TOC totally while bringing it down to Bill's one page recommendation. I don't know how I missed it last night! I tried to fix it in Acrobat Pro, but it was beyond redemption - A Pro's editing features are more sledgehammer than scalpel. I will have to fix it tonight and post it up when I've recompiled it.

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hey, for all intents & purposes you made the Pearl anniversary in my book :keke:

congrats and :unitedstates: happy pearl remembrance day

Well, it's out now Beeber! A thank you is on its way!

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And with still over 8 hours to spare!  :surfing:

Quote from: GunslingerAnd with still over 8 hours to spare!  :surfing:

Yep! I MADE it!



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