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New Alternity RPG?

Started by Spinachcat, April 29, 2017, 02:34:19 AM

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Spinachcat

April 29, 2017, 02:34:19 AM
Apparently...there's a new edition of Alternity
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sasquatchgamestudio/alternity-2017-a-science-fiction-roleplaying-game

Was anyone here part of the playtest?

Anything interesting about this version we should know?

What's to get excited about? I'm not seeing the buzz from the blather on the KS page.

And where the hell is a new edition of Star Frontiers? I'd even consider playing the 5e system if there were Vrusks, Drasalites and Yazarians again. Damn, such fond memories of that game.

Omega

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April 29, 2017, 05:22:25 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;959872Apparently...there's a new edition of Alternity
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/sasquatchgamestudio/alternity-2017-a-science-fiction-roleplaying-game

Was anyone here part of the playtest?

Anything interesting about this version we should know?

What's to get excited about? I'm not seeing the buzz from the blather on the KS page.

And where the hell is a new edition of Star Frontiers? I'd even consider playing the 5e system if there were Vrusks, Drasalites and Yazarians again. Damn, such fond memories of that game.

Are the original designers a part of this at all? Doesnt really sound like it aside from an offhand comment at the bottom? In fact sounds like its a new game with the Alternity title slapped on it? and none of the iconic races or setting?

This sounds like a rip-off predating on nostalgia?

Omega

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April 29, 2017, 05:23:57 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;959872And where the hell is a new edition of Star Frontiers? I'd even consider playing the 5e system if there were Vrusks, Drasalites and Yazarians again. Damn, such fond memories of that game.

Star Frontiers is still alive online despite Steve Jacksons best efforts.

Ronin

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April 29, 2017, 05:35:19 AM
Quote from: Omega;959878Star Frontiers is still alive online despite Steve Jacksons best efforts.

Yes Star Frontiers is alive. But Steve Jackson has never had anything to do with it. Good, bad, or otherwise.
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April 29, 2017, 08:29:12 AM
Quote from: Omega;959877Are the original designers a part of this at all? Doesnt really sound like it aside from an offhand comment at the bottom? In fact sounds like its a new game with the Alternity title slapped on it? and none of the iconic races or setting?

This sounds like a rip-off predating on nostalgia?

From the Sasquatch Studio website it looks like Richard Baker, one of the authors of the original Alternity, is part of this effort. So yes so while it appears to be Alternity in name only, it got some of the original people behind it.

estar

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April 29, 2017, 08:31:54 AM
Quote from: Ronin;959879Yes Star Frontiers is alive. But Steve Jackson has never had anything to do with it. Good, bad, or otherwise.

Back in the early 2000s fans of Birthright, and other less popular settings and lines from TSR struck deals with Wizard to post material and support them non-commercially. Star Frontiers was one of them. They have a series of digitally remastered pdfs on their site as well as a pdf magazine called Star Frontiersman that has pretty a high production value.

Omega

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April 29, 2017, 08:42:01 AM
Quote from: Ronin;959879Yes Star Frontiers is alive. But Steve Jackson has never had anything to do with it. Good, bad, or otherwise.

Actually yes he did.

Krimson

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April 29, 2017, 10:27:14 AM
Quote from: Spinachcat;959872And where the hell is a new edition of Star Frontiers? I'd even consider playing the 5e system if there were Vrusks, Drasalites and Yazarians again. Damn, such fond memories of that game.

Well there is this.
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Dumarest

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April 29, 2017, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: Omega;959890Actually yes he did.

Got any evidence to support that?

Nexus

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April 29, 2017, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: estar;959887Back in the early 2000s fans of Birthright, and other less popular settings and lines from TSR struck deals with Wizard to post material and support them non-commercially. Star Frontiers was one of them. They have a series of digitally remastered pdfs on their site as well as a pdf magazine called Star Frontiersman that has pretty a high production value.

Oh cool. I had fun with the game back in the day.
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April 29, 2017, 05:44:47 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;959904Got any evidence to support that?

yeah, how so? Curious minds want to know
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April 29, 2017, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: Dumarest;959904Got any evidence to support that?

Yep. From Jackson himself no less. Reed may have started it. But he posted from the SJG offices to RPG.net and WOTC and Jackson backed him up.
The back and fourth with the SF site and WOTC involved should still be up either on RPG.net or the SF site. Obviously it got sorted out eventually. But it is still talked about now and then a decade and a half later.

Dumarest

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April 29, 2017, 09:56:28 PM
Quote from: Omega;959964Yep. From Jackson himself no less. Reed may have started it. But he posted from the SJG offices to RPG.net and WOTC and Jackson backed him up.
The back and fourth with the SF site and WOTC involved should still be up either on RPG.net or the SF site. Obviously it got sorted out eventually. But it is still talked about now and then a decade and a half later.

Okay, present the evidence. Writing "from Jackson himself" isn't evidence. Provide the links showing Steve Jackson is one of the forgotten creators of Star Frontiers.

crkrueger

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April 29, 2017, 11:20:58 PM Last Edit: April 29, 2017, 11:26:19 PM by CRKrueger
To be fair Omega never said he was a "hidden creator".  Sounds like he had a finger in the pie on the money/copyright/trademark/IP end.

Also, there are two Steve Jacksons in gaming.
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April 30, 2017, 12:23:16 AM
Quote from: CRKrueger;959980To be fair Omega never said he was a "hidden creator".  Sounds like he had a finger in the pie on the money/copyright/trademark/IP end.

Also, there are two Steve Jacksons in gaming.

Okay, forgotten creator may have been my misreading, but to be fair to me Omega is vaguely asserting things and then providing zilch to back it up. And either Steve Jackson having a hand or finger in Star Frontiers would be news to me.
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